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This Minnesota Town Just Scrapped The Pledge Of Allegiance.
Townhall.com ^ | July 11, 2019 | Matt Vespa

Posted on 07/11/2019 2:35:02 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: Elsie
Hey, I have been reciting that Pledge for a long time and I know how our language works. I took a much stronger Oath of Office, and was proud to do so. I will not die for a flag, and I have no allegiance to a piece of cloth. I respect the flag, and will always treat it with honor; but, I will not take a bullet to protect one. I will do anything to protect the Nation and the Constitution and the People.

Rather than insult me, just think this. Would you actually die for a flag used as bait for a sniper? Do you take that Pledge that seriously, or do you merely recite it? So, how do you give allegiance to a flag?

allegiance: loyalty or commitment of a subordinate to a superior or of an individual to a group or cause

Notice that a flag is neither a group or cause.

41 posted on 07/12/2019 5:47:57 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: Elsie

Didn’t you even notice that I advocate something stronger?


42 posted on 07/12/2019 5:49:00 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: Sans-Culotte

Didn’t you even notice that I advocate something stronger?


43 posted on 07/12/2019 5:49:45 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: GingisK
You insult me.

Sorry, snowflake. If we were in Starbucks you could have me thrown out.

Too bad you cannot seem to understand symbolism and insist on believing that the pledge of allegiance is "dying for a piece of cloth". This country was a better place when everybody recited the pledge.

44 posted on 07/12/2019 6:24:13 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte (If it weren't for fake hate crimes, there would be no hate crimes at all.)
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To: Sans-Culotte

Your priorities would get people needlessly killed. I respect life, to hell with symbols.


45 posted on 07/12/2019 6:31:46 AM PDT by GingisK
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...Sorry, snowflake. If we were in Starbucks...

So, I discuss issues and you chose lame insults somehow involving Starbucks. You are the obvious leftist snowflake. Your method of discourse is clearly liberal.

I know you have reading deficiencies, so please reread my posts in their entirety.

46 posted on 07/12/2019 6:37:39 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: GingisK
Rather than insult me, just think this.

You weren't insulted; merely corrected.

47 posted on 07/12/2019 7:49:43 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: GingisK

Yes; I did.

And it required no correction.


48 posted on 07/12/2019 7:50:40 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
The correction was not warranted. I said what I mean, and mean what I say. Perhaps you and I disagree on the term "allegiance". To my way of thinking, allegiance is never applied to objects. It can be given to ideals, a cause, and people.

Now, that being said, please understand that I hold the flag in honor and will always treat it with the respect it is due. On the other hand, I would never order men into danger to retrieve one, but I sure would to retrieve another man or for the cause of protecting our Nation or Constitutional rule.

Can you live with that explanation?

49 posted on 07/13/2019 7:32:30 AM PDT by GingisK
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Yes; I can.

This way of communicating with each other leaves much to be desired.

I can now see where you are coming from.

Peace; Brother.


50 posted on 07/13/2019 3:56:49 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
I dearly love the FR patriots like yourself. I will stand shoulder to shoulder with you anytime that is needed.

Bless you.

51 posted on 07/14/2019 8:20:42 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: GingisK

I was blessed to go to West Point this May to see my grandson graduate.

His other grandpa was in a wheelchair and my wife and I were with him in a large room high above the field with other handicapped folks.

They got front row seats at the floor to ceiling windows, while we able bodied folk were behind them.

When the colors came by and the anthem was sung; everyone one of them that were capable; stood from their chairs, some struggling to make it while others helped.

It humbled me.


52 posted on 07/15/2019 5:58:17 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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