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To: knighthawk

After handing us Clinton, he owed us a hell of a lot more than that.

The corruption of our federal government was never so clear before Clinton. Then Obama came along and built off of that.

Yes Ross, you owed us big-time.


4 posted on 07/09/2019 11:10:17 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (This space for rent...)
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To: DoughtyOne

The Republican party is not our friend. Perot understood that. Trump does now also. Perot made the mistake I’m thinking he could overcome the two party system, but he was right that it needed to be overthrown.


14 posted on 07/10/2019 2:49:50 AM PDT by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying for their victory.)
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To: DoughtyOne

All the people here blaming Perot for “giving us Clinton” are blaming one person for running as an Independent instead of blaming the two party system and the voters.


15 posted on 07/10/2019 2:55:44 AM PDT by snippy_about_it
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To: DoughtyOne

Ross Perot was going to win the race.

Time to relook as to why he dropped out then dropped back in the race.

That was what spilled his momentum. Otherwise he had the race won.

Wow. Never really thought about it that way before. We have been saddled with Bush/Clinton ever since.

I suppose the obvious symptom was the first Bush? After that it was all deep state run characters !


18 posted on 07/10/2019 3:38:46 AM PDT by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap)
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To: DoughtyOne
"After handing us Clinton...."

He didn't hand us Klinton - HW Bush and the RINO Republicans did.
If I had a do-over, I'd vote for Perot over HW again.

24 posted on 07/10/2019 4:11:31 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("I will now proceed to entangle the entire area".)
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To: DoughtyOne
After handing us Clinton, he owed us a hell of a lot more than that.

Bush did himself no favors by hiking taxes after the "read my lips" promise not to.

33 posted on 07/10/2019 4:58:17 AM PDT by ScottinVA (The most urgent gathering threat to America: the Democrat Party)
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To: DoughtyOne
After handing us Clinton, he owed us a hell of a lot more than that.

No candidate of any party is "owed" a vote by any voter, it is the candidate who owes the voter a reason to vote and to earn a vote for them over the other candidates running. GHWB could have earned reelection if he put some actual effort into his reelection, didn't get snookered into the no new taxes bit, and failing that last bit, being halfway effective in countering the criticism for the taxes bit in the campaign.

39 posted on 07/10/2019 5:30:36 AM PDT by jz638
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To: DoughtyOne
After handing us Clinton, he owed us a hell of a lot more than that

It gets quite tiresome to have Perot blamed for George HW Bush's loss in 1992. First, as a moderate on social issues, Perot attracted nearly as many former Democrats as he did Republicans.

Second and more importantly, those former Republicans who voted for Perot wouldn't have done so if Bush were a halfway decent President. If you really want to blame someone for getting Clinton elected, blame the so-called Republican President who increased immigration quotas, increased taxes, denounced the NRA, and pushed "free trade" with China. The very same agenda as Clinton, in other words.

44 posted on 07/10/2019 6:05:16 AM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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To: DoughtyOne; knighthawk; TTFX
"After handing us Clinton, he owed us a hell of a lot more than that.

Yes Ross, you owed us big-time."

Not everyone agrees with that assessment.

"The Economy and ‘Read My Lips,’ Not Ross Perot, Cost President Bush His 1992 Re-Election
R.G. Ratcliffe | Dec 6, 2018

Bush was in trouble from the get-go. The collapse of the savings and loan industry had thrown the nation into a recession, and Bush had broken a 1988 promise against increasing taxes as part of a budget deal with Democrats. National polling in late 1991 showed Bush running neck-and-neck with a generic Democratic candidate to be named later. Eventually, Bill Clinton emerged with his campaign staff focusing on reminding themselves of one idea: “It’s the economy, stupid.”

Here’s the truth. Exit polls showed Perot drew votes almost evenly from Clinton and Bush. In the states where Perot did the best—Texas and Florida—Bush still won and took all the Electoral College votes. The truth has hardly mattered to what has become known in political circles as The Perot Myth. During the 2016 election, the political website Five Thirty Eight produced a video trying to dispel the Perot Myth.

The idea that Perot cost Bush the 1992 election is one of the most enduring myths of American politics..."

https://www.texasmonthly.com/politics/george-hw-bush-lose-1992-reelection-ross-perot/

64 posted on 07/10/2019 7:38:51 AM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: DoughtyOne

The bushes were just as bad or worse


70 posted on 07/10/2019 8:52:46 AM PDT by Truthoverpower (The guvmint you get is the Trump winning express !)
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