Posted on 07/05/2019 1:55:38 AM PDT by conservative98
A Republican congressman has encouraged President Trump to ignore the Supreme Court and print the 2020 U.S. Census with the question about citizenship, as the president mulls an executive order.
Rep. Chip Roy, who represents the Lone Star State's 21st Congressional District -- covering much of the area north of San Antonio, plus much of Austin -- made the call on social media amid the controversy over the census citizenship question that caused some confusion within the Trump administration on whether the question will appear on the survey.
“It’s the lawyers advising him,” Roy wrote in a tweet. “[Trump] should ignore them. Completely. Print the Census with the questions — and issue a statement explaining why — ‘because we should.’ Done.”
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I would bet the farm that if the question was, “do you own firearms” , the left leaners at USC would be all about that.
This was the stupidest supreme Court decision I’ve heard in a long time.
They rejected it because his ‘intent’ was perceived as somehow impure?
So if he proposed the same thing but thought differently about it it would have been okay???
Thought crimez are here.
Leave it in and make the USSC delay the census.
Leave it in and make the USSC delay the census.
Trump should say “I’ve changed my mind and now I’m doing it for good happy reasons like the court wanted”
With the SCOTUS ruling that intent being needed in order to rule is the most spineless, subjective opinion of the facts of law possible.
If SCOTUS will not lead then the leader of the free world shall.
The Constitution does not say what can or cannot be in the Census. You could in fact perform a census....asking only if the resident lives in the house, has a cat, or has a garage. The Census would honestly be worthless, but would drive home the point that it never listed the questions permissible or non-permissible. This (if done) would throw the whole topic back into the House/Senate for 2020...making the Census probably one of the top three topics to be discussed. The more it’s discussed...the less likely any Democratic Presidential candidate will want to support listing any questions.
I will also add this...any state could come up and view non-citizen inclusion into this as a threat to the state’s Constitution, and forbid Census-takers from making the rounds. This could turn into a massive mess, and eliminate the Census activity for 2020.
I will add this comment....German law mandates a Census as well. But after the 1970 census was taken....some questions were added for the 1980 census, and it got entangled into the court system....so the 1980 census never occurred. A mini-census, with only five or six questions occurred in 1987...enough to satisfy the Constitutional requirement. A full census did not occur until 2011 (roughly forty years after the last complete and through census). That violated the Constitution as well, but judges could not come to any agreement over what could or could not be allowed.
WTF???
The Supreme Court actually said that the Commerce Department had made a THOUGHT CRIME violation.
The question was not illegal, but their reason for including it was illegal.
To me, this is frightening!
“The Constitution does not say what can or cannot be in the Census.”
I don’t think the writers of the Constitution ever dreamed that millions of illegal invaders would EVER be allowed to enter the country and be included in the Census that determines representation in Congress, and thereby disfranchising citizens.
You can read the Naturalization Act of 1790 and glean that they never, ever dreamed it was possible.
They foresaw a lot of contingencies, but that one totally escaped them.
Include it on the official census form.
Having it on the ACS (American Community Survey) doesn’t mean squat, when it comes to determining HoR Representatives or Electoral votes. ...The ACS is not an official census.
“The question was not illegal, but their reason for including it was illegal.”
I think it was more like the reason for it was insufficient.
That’s still BS. Who died and made John Roberts king?
The Constitution requires a census to enumerate citizens, their ages and their sex and race.
Many early census forms also required the same info on slaves, plus the numbers of livestock owned. ...This data was used to determine how much to tax the owners.
Use the 2020 census to cross reference to the 2010 census. Any names of adults not appearing on the previous census should be immediately investigated, rounded up and deported if they have no green card or immigration papers. Give the names and addresses to ICE. If illegals feared this would happen, they would be reluctant to take part in the census count.
Makes sense to me - when Roberts’ “rationale” is “It doesn’t smell right” instead of using the Constitution and actual Law to make a decision, it is a worthless politically-based opinion rather than a legal opinion.
Maybe he should keep his over-sensitive nose out of cases...
“...any state could come up and view non-citizen inclusion into this as a threat to the state’s Constitution, and forbid Census-takers from making the rounds.”
Interesting, are you saying this is legal? Or is it that even if CJ Roberts woke up and supported the Constitutional basis for states being prohibited from interfering in the carrying out of the census ... states could still take such action to delay, buy time, etc .... thereby making a massive mess?
The courts are on very shaky ground as some of their political decisions are directed specifically at Trump. It will have future consequences. The precedence will be available for use against future demokraps. For example, courts saying that Trump’s statements as a candidate can be used to rule against POTUS decision about who does not enter the country ... demokraps political statements about Trumps taxes before and after the election can be used against them as to the House’s legal “right” to see them.
At some point, the executive branch and/or legislative branch need to push back and challenge the limits of judicial authority.
The Supreme Court decision on the census question can be summed up as “elections have no consequences”, because unelected black-robed tyrants who serve for life now feel free to substitute thete judgment for elected officials, even when they admit that the decisions are fully within the authority of the elected officials.
There is no check or balance on judicial authority, other than the assumption that their decisions carry sufficient legitimacy that the other branches will respect them. Under Roberts especially, the Court’s authority has long ceased to have any legitimacy or adherence to the written law.
Justice Roberts in questioning “intent” sounds like Comey a couple of years back when he found that Hillary didn’t “intend” to break the law, makes me wonder if the two have colluded.
Also the man in charge of this at the DOJ is the former chief of staff for Jeffery B. Sessions which doesn’t instill a lot of confidence in his getting the job done.
I was just about to ask if ignoring the USSC would be an impeachable offense, then I remembered: Obama did it all the time and nothing happened.
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