Posted on 07/03/2019 8:48:07 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
In 2001, before the 9/11 attacks, the share of Americans who said they were “extremely” or “very” proud of their country was 87 percent. That number held relatively steady for the next 15 years, through 9/11, the Iraq war, Katrina, and the duration of the Obama presidency, never dropping below 80 percent.
Then, in 2017, it fell to 75 percent.
And now, in 2019, it’s fallen to 70 percent, with the share who describe themselves as “extremely” proud at 45 percent — the first time that number’s been less than a majority during this century.
Wha’ happened in 2016?
Perhaps … this graph might enlighten us?
Note that that’s not a reflection of how many people claimed *some* pride in being an American, just those who claimed they’re “extremely” proud. But even so, it’s revealing:
1. Until the rise of Trump, Democrats and independents tracked very closely. Only in the last two years have they diverged, with indies maintaining a somewhat smaller share of “extreme” pride than they did during the Obama years and Dems falling off a farking cliff.
2. The current Democratic numbers are less than half what they were during the darkest days of the Iraq war. I blogged during that period and, let me tell you, I never dreamed that Democratic animosity towards a Republican president would be worse than it was then. Not only is it worse under Trump, his ascendance has colored perceptions of the country itself in ways Bush’s tenure didn’t. Which maybe makes sense: To some Iraq is more a colossal error in judgment than a symptom of some deep character flaw in the country. (Anti-war activists would counter that nothing reflects a deep character flaw so much as a major misbegotten war.) But no doubt there are some rank-and-file Dems who viewed Bush as incompetent yet his hope for liberal democracy in the Middle East as at least well intentioned. That same benefit of the doubt on good intentions — on pretty much any subject — is out the window for them with Trump, which helps explain why “electability” looms so large in this year’s primaries. When the current president has made you lose faith in the country itself, all you want to do is get him out.
3. The *highest* level of “extreme” pride claimed by Democrats since 2001 is less than the *lowest* level claimed by Republicans. For all the hype about how much righties loathed O and his vision for the country, “extreme” pride never dipped below 68 percent among Republicans towards the tail end of his presidency. And for all the hype about how loyal GOPers are to Trump, they have yet to reach the level of “extreme” pride during his tenure that they did towards the end of Dubya’s, when his job approval overall was deep in the toilet.
4. Aside from one small blip after Obama won reelection, it’s been a long time since a majority of Democrats were “extremely” proud to be American. You might have expected the election of the first black president to have perked up their numbers in 2009, but nope. “America isn’t great” has been a core Dem conviction since the Iraq war which not even Obama’s tenure could correct.
In lieu of an exit question, here’s a Trump-sized dook that was dropped on the NYT op-ed page yesterday because, I guess, there’s only one mood a right-thinking liberal newspaper can properly have when Independence Day rolls around. Actual title of this piece: “Please Stop Telling Me America Is Great.” It’d make a terrific Democratic slogan in 2020.
The myth of America as the greatest nation on earth is at best outdated and at worst, wildly inaccurate. If you look at data, the U.S. is really just O.K. pic.twitter.com/pFrWBH0Zfl
— New York Times Opinion (@nytopinion) July 2, 2019
Look at it this way: the left has taken off their mask for good. Their long war against America is now right out in the open for everyone to see. Our choice has never been clearer or starker.
It’s coming...Don’t know when, but it IS coming.....
Except the GOP refuses to man the guns.
PJ is right. Also, notice the spread of the numbers. Republicans have the least variation, with the lowest being 64 and the highest 86 (22 pts.) Independents are a little variable, 41 to 65 (24 pts). But Democrats are practically bipolar, with a spread from 22 to 65 (43 pts.) They are truly unstable people.
I hate Allahpundit, at any rate we will see when the only poll that counts is taken in 2020.
We have seen plenty of RINOs.
The real power has been in the Media, for decades, because it has been overwhelmingly, ideologically, Progressive.
Trump is breaking that power, and going against the establishment. He is dragging the GOP along with him.
We need to convert the GOP into a Trumpian GOP.
I keep wondering why those Dummies give a rat’s butt about the 4th of July being ruined by Trump. Since when did they care about the 4th of July? What a bunch of loser hypocrites.
Meanwhile, the perverted “rainbow pride” hits new highs.
I would be very happy to see them go—and take half the territory with them. They could call their part Venezuela North or Zimbabwe Redux or something.
Michelle Obama let us know how dems work: only proud of America when democrats have the White House. And for her, only her husband.
Fully agree, the first step is removing Bush League Republicans like Flimsey Grahamnesty and replacing them with Senators and Congressmen that will side with the citizens and the rule of law.
I am proud of our President, our military and veterans, our constitution, our history, our people. I am disgusted by the trusted institutions we’ve found out to be rotting from within, specifically the DOJ, FBI, CIA.
Fine.
Anyone who doesn’t like it here can leave. They can go to N. Korea or even China.
Wow even in the Obama era they weren’t proud to say they were Americans.
Liberal political beliefs are directly correlated to the personality trait “love of novelty”. When they live in a bubble, they raise love of novelty to a moral virtue.
What does this do to politics? You hate your own culture and people as bad, because they’re boring, bland, inferior to all the better foreign cultures. The more exotic the better. The more foreigners flooding in, the better.
And if your neighbors ask the newcomers to assimilate, that’s evil oppression. The familiar local culture is the bad, boring inferior one that needs to change.
They HATE their own people and culture because that’s part of their personality. Problem is, unlike extroversion and introversion, they don’t recognize that this is THEIR way of thinking but the majority don’t think that way. If they do realize it, their elitism and systemic power causes them to denigrate those who don’t have their personality type as stupid, crazy or ignorant.
That’s toxic narcissism - I’m the best and everyone should be like me. This creates the weird white savior complex, that the white liberal is going to save all these poor little victim cultures by bringing them here and keeping them in their ghettos while denigrating their native born peers. They think they’re improving or saving the world.
Wish all them America-haters would move to a country they consider utopian...I’ll by 5 tickets if they agree to pay me back triple if they ever set foot here again...
When Bernays was developing PR and advertising campaigns, propaganda had a more neutral connotation.
Public Relations came to replace the term later.
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Edward Louis Bernays November 22, 1891; March 9, 1995) was an Austrian-American pioneer in the field of public relations and propaganda, referred to in his obituary as “the father of public relations”.[3] Bernays was named one of the 100 most influential Americans of the 20th century by Life.[4] He was the subject of a full length biography by Larry Tye called The Father of Spin (1999) and later an award-winning 2002 documentary for the BBC by Adam Curtis called The Century of the Self.
His best-known campaigns include a 1929 effort to promote female smoking by branding cigarettes as feminist “Torches of Freedom” and his work for the United Fruit Company connected with the CIA-orchestrated overthrow of the democratically elected Guatemalan government in 1954. He worked for dozens of major American corporations including Procter & Gamble and General Electric, and for government agencies, politicians, and non-profit organizations.
Of his many books, Crystallizing Public Opinion (1923) and Propaganda (1928) gained special attention as early efforts to define and theorize the field of public relations. Citing works of writers such as Gustave Le Bon, Wilfred Trotter, Walter Lippmann, and his own double uncle Sigmund Freud, he described the masses as irrational and subject to herd instinctand outlined how skilled practitioners could use crowd psychology and psychoanalysis to control them in desirable ways.[5][6]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Bernays
Grooming and indoctrination by public schools, colleges and media. Starting with the one about which the individual has the least say in the matter.
the only time they think the nation is great is when they’re in power.
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