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Amendment 4: DeSantis signs bill requiring ex-felons to pay fines before voting rights are restored
Orlando Sentinel ^ | 6-29-2019 | MARK SKONEKI

Posted on 06/28/2019 6:41:44 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici

Gov. Ron DeSantis signed a bill Friday requiring ex-felons to pay court-ordered financial penalties to get their voting rights restored, a move that brought immediate legal action from activists seeking to stop the new law.

The Legislature passed the bill this past spring in response to Amendment 4, which was approved by the voters in November to restore voting rights for ex-felons other than murderers and sex offenders. The amendment won 64.5% of the vote.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: felons; florida; voting
Excellent interpretation by Florida. You want to vote? Serve your sentence AND PAY YOUR FINES!! Calling fines and restitution a Poll Tax is ridiculous.
1 posted on 06/28/2019 6:41:44 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici
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To: VeniVidiVici

I love that. Hope it stands. It should.


2 posted on 06/28/2019 6:44:37 PM PDT by boycott
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To: VeniVidiVici

Yes! My governor is awesome!!!!


3 posted on 06/28/2019 6:45:45 PM PDT by napscoordinator (Trump/Hunter, jr for President/Vice President 2016)
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To: napscoordinator

You mean he’s better than Scott?


4 posted on 06/28/2019 6:48:03 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: VeniVidiVici

Libs like to say that the felons have paid their debt to society. No they haven’t if they haven’t paid fines and court costs.


5 posted on 06/28/2019 6:48:16 PM PDT by boycott
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To: VeniVidiVici

There will probably be a movement for using Reparations to pay off outstanding fines, restitution, and costs in all prior criminal and civil cases.

Sounds like a Federal subsidy to local government!


6 posted on 06/28/2019 6:48:43 PM PDT by Finnwolf (It needs but one foe to breed a war, not two and those who have not swords can still die upon them.)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Yes. Scott is better in the senate.


7 posted on 06/28/2019 6:49:22 PM PDT by napscoordinator (Trump/Hunter, jr for President/Vice President 2016)
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To: napscoordinator

Which is why we will not see illegals with driver licenses in FL..


8 posted on 06/28/2019 6:51:41 PM PDT by ex91B10 (Powered by the Penguin)
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To: VeniVidiVici

Yes, why not make felons pay? Its costs a fortune to pursue,prosecute and incarcerate them.

If someone calls it a poll tax we should get the SCOTUS to revisit and refuse Obamacare as their ruling based on an old wheeze about an enforced healthcare coverage being a fee or a tax is outdated.


9 posted on 06/28/2019 6:55:22 PM PDT by frank ballenger (End vote fraud,non-citizen voting & leftist media news censorship or we afought for theire finished.)
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To: VeniVidiVici

Leave it to liberals to turn virtually anything into an auction house for votes.


10 posted on 06/28/2019 7:04:59 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists call 'em what you will they all have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: VeniVidiVici

I can hear it now: POLL TAX!!!


11 posted on 06/28/2019 7:18:06 PM PDT by sevlex
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To: VeniVidiVici

Sounds more than fair.

Voting is not nor ever has been a right, voting rights can be lost, along with other rights.

At university we had some discussion along these lines in a class. I pointed out that the right to a owning a firearm can be removed for cause, and voting is arguably equally if not more dangerous to society than firearms. The class instructor did not particularly like this line of reasoning, but everyone knew I was correct.

“Liberalism” is a strange, toxic brew, among others and in no particular order: envy, vindictiveness, self-loathing and above all removing any deterrence, responsibility or consquences to poor or self-destructive behavior. The truth is some people shouldn’t be able to vote, felon or not. Universal Suffrage has been a disaster by any rational weighing.

Robbing Peter to pay Paul can always be counted on to have the enthusiastic support of Paul. That’s why Democracy ever and always devolves into anarchy and discontent. Mobocracy. That’s why the founders guaranteed a republican form of government.

Should people in Prison also get to vote on whether to retain the Judges on the bench? Are there any limits to this stuff? With insane leftists running things we’ll find out.


12 posted on 06/28/2019 7:43:10 PM PDT by Freedom4US
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To: boycott

I wish we had a governor like Ron here in California. All states should have one like him. So work hard to keep him.


13 posted on 06/28/2019 7:50:25 PM PDT by HighSierra5
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To: boycott

“Libs like to say that the felons have paid their debt to society. No they haven’t if they haven’t paid fines and court costs.”


Even if they’ve paid fines and court costs, restitution, that is extremely unlikely. Real restitution doesn’t mean just that. Think about the damage just one kid can do who steals a new car, tears it up, runs over a few lightpoles, takes out an electrical transformer or a natural gas feed, any number of high dollar things, and finally plows into somebody’s house. They can cause tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars damage routinely.

None of those costs are ever recouped from the perpetrator. Instead they are cost shifted onto the taxpayer. REAL “restitution” doesn’t mean some administrative fine paid to the government, it means making the people he injured whole again financially. This basic concept has been completely removed from society.

Just throwing the kid in jail, that’s just a further, additional net drain on society. Three hots and a cot, medical care, etc. Incarceration costs big bucks.


14 posted on 06/28/2019 7:54:24 PM PDT by Freedom4US
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To: Freedom4US

DeSantis should run for Rubio’s Senate seat when his first and only term ends in 2022. Rubio runs for Gov. and gets his executive experience and gets THO of the senate.


15 posted on 06/28/2019 8:28:44 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: VeniVidiVici

This is entirely reasonable.


16 posted on 06/28/2019 8:29:55 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: VeniVidiVici

Why would conservative DeSantis want felons to vote. He sounds like a democrat.


17 posted on 06/28/2019 10:20:00 PM PDT by NKP_Vet ("Man without God descends into madness”)
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To: NKP_Vet

You might want to check the history of that.


18 posted on 06/28/2019 10:31:35 PM PDT by sport
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To: Freedom4US
Re: That’s why Democracy ever and always devolves into anarchy and discontent. Mobocracy. That’s why the founders guaranteed a republican form of government.

Have there ever been any national republics that did not devolve into anarchy and discontent?

19 posted on 06/29/2019 4:00:59 AM PDT by zeestephen
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To: rockinqsranch

So true, but the idiotic people at the polling place ratified this awful constitutional amendment.

I despise direct democracy.


20 posted on 06/29/2019 8:05:10 AM PDT by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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