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'Not Proportionate': Trump Explains Why He Halted Air Strikes Against Iran
Townhall ^ | 06/21/2019 | Matt Vespa

Posted on 06/21/2019 7:22:23 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: red-dawg

How in the heck can “porportionate” enter into this situation. Iran is poking a far bigger opponent who swings a huge stick. U S taxpayers pay for a fantastic military capability that must be used to end activity such as this once and for all!!


121 posted on 06/21/2019 9:08:04 AM PDT by Demanwideplan
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To: jimwatx

Iran can send a freight there with a bomb or attack assets in Europe or the middle east as they do now.

Also, you may not realize Israel is an ALLY. That used to mean something when we had honor and determination. How even conservatives pee in their loans at the thought of stopping the worst supporter of terrorism in the world.


122 posted on 06/21/2019 9:09:41 AM PDT by morphing libertarian ( Use Comey's Report, Indict Hillary now; build Kate's wall. --- Proud Smelly Walmart Deplorable)
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To: BeauBo

Dems and RINOs try to make sure that the appropriations are “targeted” for something other than border/immigration security.


123 posted on 06/21/2019 9:10:45 AM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Mozart tells you what it's like to be human. Bach tells you what it's like to be the universe)
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To: jimwatx

Since our guys were gearing up for a counter strike, I think sitting vulnerable dead in the water to collect debris just outside 12 miles of Iran with Iranian gun boats probably looking for confrontation about, would not be the first priority. Second, finding some fragments drifting on the surface after the event wouldn’t be difficult, and they can drift into their waters by currents, or they could all be faked anyway. Having done lots of FONOPS in my earlier navy days, I am going to believe the Navy when it says the drone was legally in international airspace.


124 posted on 06/21/2019 9:12:09 AM PDT by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them.)
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To: morphing libertarian

The next democrat president will just give them the bomb.


125 posted on 06/21/2019 9:14:06 AM PDT by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them.)
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To: Alberta's Child

Exactly right. Iran isn’t doing this on their own.


126 posted on 06/21/2019 9:20:01 AM PDT by dowcaet
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To: GOPJ; DoughtyOne

Suppose there was a way for US cyber ops to control the image and info displayed to Iran’s air defense system. If “we” wanted a full blown war we would display a US manned aircraft outside Iran as an unmanned drone inside Iran. But displaying a drone outside Iran as a drone inside Iran would cause it to be attacked, and the US would have some options.


127 posted on 06/21/2019 9:22:20 AM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Mozart tells you what it's like to be human. Bach tells you what it's like to be the universe)
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To: gspurlock
The important message here is to the Iranian people, we care more about you than your mullahs do. . .think about it.

An appropriate response would be to take out the leadership, those who give the orders.

128 posted on 06/21/2019 9:26:01 AM PDT by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: TroutGuy

“Bomb some unmanned facility worth 250 million dollars if you’re worried about casualties being disproportionate.”

Take out one active oil rig.


129 posted on 06/21/2019 9:27:02 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Trump is President and CEO of America, Inc.)
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To: Magnum44

zaklee


130 posted on 06/21/2019 9:29:21 AM PDT by morphing libertarian ( Use Comey's Report, Indict Hillary now; build Kate's wall. --- Proud Smelly Walmart Deplorable)
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To: morphing libertarian

Trump is doing what has to be done instead of leaving it for the future. Sanctions are crushing the mullahs so hard and are such a threat to their control, that they prefer to have bombs dropped on their country instead.


131 posted on 06/21/2019 9:29:42 AM PDT by PUGACHEV
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

You suspect some of the newer UFO sightings are a ‘vaporware’ weapon? You might be right. And yeah, it would give us more options.


132 posted on 06/21/2019 9:30:52 AM PDT by GOPJ (The press whores for democrats... Biden with white supremists? Biden was with fellow democrats.)
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To: morphing libertarian
Also, you may not realize Israel is an ALLY. That used to mean something when we had honor and determination

Some ally, we give them $5 billion a year, and they reward us with their relentless spying, selling secrets to Russia, selling tech to China.

China Is Spying On Israel to Steal U.S. Secrets

https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/03/24/china-and-russia-are-spying-on-israel-to-steal-u-s-secrets-putin-netanyahu-xi-haifa-ashdod-iai-elbit/

US accuses Israel of ‘alarming, even terrifying’ levels of spying

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-accuses-israel-of-alarming-even-terrifying-levels-of-spying-9341264.html

Israel Won't Stop Spying on the U.S.

https://www.newsweek.com/israel-wont-stop-spying-us-249757

133 posted on 06/21/2019 9:34:34 AM PDT by jimwatx
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To: jimwatx

so we pull back from Israel. Good stuff. you don’t have alchemy as to the big picture in the middle east. Given some of the presidents we have had, i would spy on us too were I Israel.


134 posted on 06/21/2019 9:38:49 AM PDT by morphing libertarian ( Use Comey's Report, Indict Hillary now; build Kate's wall. --- Proud Smelly Walmart Deplorable)
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To: PUGACHEV

we have been here before people in the street in teheran and then it dissolves.

We should attack Iran because they attack and threaten us and are developing weapons to carry out the threat. That’s the reason. When they have the bomb and ICBMs you’ll still be waiting for the revolution.


135 posted on 06/21/2019 9:41:04 AM PDT by morphing libertarian ( Use Comey's Report, Indict Hillary now; build Kate's wall. --- Proud Smelly Walmart Deplorable)
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To: morphing libertarian

I am Iraned out. Someone take the last word.


136 posted on 06/21/2019 9:41:46 AM PDT by morphing libertarian ( Use Comey's Report, Indict Hillary now; build Kate's wall. --- Proud Smelly Walmart Deplorable)
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To: ClearCase_guy

There is a fine line between deterrence and vengeance. You cannot have both.


137 posted on 06/21/2019 9:45:13 AM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: morphing libertarian
The next president after Trump will be a democrat like Obama who wants to hold hands and sit and talk them out of their fanaticism.

This is exactly why U.S. military action should be RARE, not as pathetically commonplace it has become.

Our system of government with its frequent transitions of power is simply not set up to engage in the kind of long-term idiocy that has become the norm in these foreign entanglements.

Further complicating all this is that we allow foreign interests to lobby our government buy our political leaders, so our "foreign/military interests" usually coincide with the interests of whichever country is more successful in buying Congress and the White House.

138 posted on 06/21/2019 9:46:46 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Knowledge makes a man unfit to be a slave." -- Frederick Douglass)
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To: House Atreides

I had a dream about Trump last night. Mainly it was him as a strong father figure with big shoulders and he would make sure everything was ok.


139 posted on 06/21/2019 9:46:49 AM PDT by bgill
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To: morphing libertarian
you don’t have alchemy as to the big picture in the middle east.

Oh I get the big picture all right, it's just that my perspective is one of American interests first, not Israel (or Saudi)interests first.

140 posted on 06/21/2019 9:47:25 AM PDT by jimwatx
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