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Public support for liberal policymaking at 60-year high, survey says
The Hill ^ | 6/08/19 | RACHEL FRAZIN

Posted on 06/09/2019 3:36:46 AM PDT by Libloather

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To: Libloather

The pinkos at Vox produce fakenews.


21 posted on 06/09/2019 5:05:33 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Denounce DUAC - The Democrats Un-American Activists Committee)
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To: Libloather
Vox reported that public support for more regulation, higher taxes and more social services reached the highest level on record

But, when asked if they were willing to pay higher taxes, those people polled said "Hell, no! I'm talking about the other people. Not me!"

22 posted on 06/09/2019 5:37:52 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob ("Other People's Money" = The life blood of Liberalism)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Yup

VOX - says it all.


23 posted on 06/09/2019 5:39:54 AM PDT by Peter W. Kessler ("NUTS!!!")
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To: Libloather

FDR was a big socialist and liked Hitlers model for socialism, just look at some of his policies.

I think this piece is fake news.


24 posted on 06/09/2019 5:47:34 AM PDT by stockpirate (TYRANNY IS THY NAME REBELLION IS OUR ANSWER. HANG THEM ALL!)
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To: Libloather

Odd finding. 60% of Democrats found the current Dem candidates “underwhelming.”

Do you find the current field of Democratic party candidates for president to be impressive or underwhelming?

Impressive 40%

Underwhelming 60%

Not planning on voting 10 2%

That last figure of 10% is a key. Already a tenth of Democrats are turned off and don’t plan to vote. My suspicion is that they are turned off by the vitriol and constant carping against President Trump.

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2019/06/harvard_harris_poll_reveals_shocking_level_of_public_indifference_to_democrats_presidential_field.html


25 posted on 06/09/2019 6:01:58 AM PDT by WWG1WWA (Brothers, what we do in life echoes in eternity." -Marcus Aurelius)
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To: LouAvul

I’d argue that’s always been the case though. Young people with nothing see a daunting up hill battle and “feel” that more government “help” is the answer. It’s only as you work, achieve, and become stable that you realize more government is the problem.

I was no different.


26 posted on 06/09/2019 6:25:39 AM PDT by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom
When all government ...in little as in great things... shall be drawn to Washington as the center of all power; it will render powerless the checks provided of one government on another, and will become as venal and oppressive as the government from which we separated." -- Thomas Jefferson, 1821

Government: If you refuse to pay unjust taxes, your property will be confiscated. If you attempt to defend your property, you will be arrested. If you resist arrest, you will be clubbed. If you defend yourself against clubbing, you will be shot dead. These procedures are known as the Rule of Law. -- Edward Abbey

"Since there is no such entity as 'the public,' since the public is merely a number of individuals, the idea that 'the public interest' supersedes private interests and rights can have but one meaning: that the interests and rights of some individuals take precedence over the interests and rights of others."

"A thing moderately good is not so good as it ought to be. Moderation in temper is always a virtue; but moderation in principle is always a vice." - Thomas Paine 1792

"Experience should teach us to be most on our guard to protect liberty when the government's purposes are beneficient...The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well meaning but without understanding."-- Supreme Court Justice Louis Brandeis

Good intentions will always be pleaded for every assumption of authority. It is hardly too strong to say that the Constitution was made to guard the people against the dangers of good intentions. There are men in all ages who mean to govern well, but they mean to govern. They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters.-- Daniel Webster

Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their consciences.-- C. S. Lewis

Pick one

27 posted on 06/09/2019 6:56:59 AM PDT by SanchoP (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun. -- R. Buckminster Fuller)
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To: stockpirate

“FDR was a big socialist...”

Compared to today’s democrats FDR was a Bill Buckley.


28 posted on 06/09/2019 8:33:44 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: Libloather

Stoners slackers and crazy persons agree they are confused about what free America means.
Nothing good is free.


29 posted on 06/09/2019 9:57:20 AM PDT by Vaduz (women and children to be impacIQ of chimpsted the most.)
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To: Libloather
"How we (and you) will be judged" by future generations is by whether we have preserved the Constitution's principles and ideas, and by whether those who judge us can enjoy "the Blessings of Liberty," protected by that Constitution.

Ultimately, history always records the exact periods of time and the means by which nations become free, and it also records the period when artful and designing officials lead their citizens into yielding up their liberty.

America's history will be no different! We can read the ideas and principles upon which this Republic was formed--ideas rooted in enduring principles of right and wrong and of Creator-endowed, thus unalienable, life, rights, laws and liberty.

As we allow imperfect persons who have gained positions of power to confuse us, to lead us to yield up our liberty, then we deny our inheritance and lay the burdens of our foolishness and constitutional illiteracy on those who will follow, and they will judge us, as well they should.

The choice is between individual freedom and slavery to government--a tyrannical form of slavery.

The formula structured by the Constitution of the United States and laid out in its philosophical foundations--as asserted in the 1776 Declaration of Independence from an overly-powerful government administered by King George III--were explained by America's Founders.

Their writings and speeches, as well as the wisdom writings from previous defenders of liberty, are available online.

THE FEDERALIST, that collection of 85 essays explaining the Constitution's provisions and protections, now can be read in every home and school as a means of enlightening a public which has become too willing to yield their Creator-endowed liberty to a collection of would-be tyrants who call themselves "progressives," but are, in fact taking American citizens back to the bondage from which their ancestors fled in other parts of the world.

Several years ago, a business man by the name of James R. Evans, in his book, "America's Choice: Twilight's Last Gleaming or Dawn's Early Light," suggested 7 simple principles which every citizen could benefit from considering as they watch the so-called "progressives," attempt to enslave them.

"1. Does this legislation or idea increase, or decrease, individual freedom and creativity?

"2. Does this legislation or idea increase, or decrease, the power of some citizens over other citizens?

"3. Does this legislation or idea recognize that the persons who will exercise the power are themselves imperfect human beings?

"4. Does this legislation or idea recognize that government is incapable of creating wealth?

"5. Does this legislation or idea authorize taking from some what belongs to them, and giving it to others to whom it does not belong?
If 'thou shalt not steal' is a valid commandment, can we assume that it is meant to apply only to individuals and not to government (which is made up of individuals), even if those persons in power pass laws which sanction such redistribution of the wealth of others?'

"6. Does this legislation or idea encourage, or discourage, the very highest level of morality and responsibility from the individual?
. . .when government makes actions 'legal' by some citizens at the expense of other citizens, the result may be behavior which would not be considered possible by individuals acting alone.

"7. Does this legislation or idea propose that the 'government' do something which the individual cannot do without committing a crime?"**

**7 principles drawn from James R. Evans book, "America's Choice," and reprinted in a Stedman Corporation (Asheboro, NC) booklet entitled "I'm Only One, What Can I Do?"

The simplicity of these questions and of the core message of the following words by some of America's Founders might jar some citizens into a recognition of what "progressives" are attempting to do to the future of liberty for their posterity:

"...nip the shoots of arbitrary power in the bud, is the only maxim which can ever preserve the liberties of any people. When the people give way, their deceivers, betrayers, and destroyers press upon them so fast, that there is no resisting afterwards. The nature of the encroachment upon the American constitution is such, as to grow every day more and more encroaching. Like a cancer, it eats faster and faster every hour. The revenue creates pensioners, and the pensioners urge for more revenue. The people grow less steady, spirited, and virtuous, the seekers more numerous and more corrupt, and every day increases the circles of their dependents and expectants, until virtue, integrity, public spirit, simplicity, and frugality, become the objects of ridicule and scorn, and vanity, luxury, foppery, selfishness, meanness, and downright venality swallow up the whole society." - John Adams

"This was a favorable moment to shut and bar the door against paper money." [This statement referred to a proposed provision in Article I, Section 8, that would have read 'and emit bills of credit (paper money) of the United States,' which the Founders rejected by an overwhelming vote.] - James Madison- Notes of the Federal Convention 1787

"...there have always been those who wish to enlarge the powers of the General Government. There is but one safe rule...confine (it) within the sphere of its appropriate duties. It has no power to raise a revenue or impose taxes except for the purposes enumerated in the Constitution....Every attempt to exercise power beyond these limits should be promptly and firmly opposed." - Andrew Jackson's Valedictory

"...experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms (of government), those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny; and it is believed that the most effectual means of preventing this would be, to illuminate...the minds of the people...to give them knowledge of those facts, which history exhibiteth. History, by apprizing them of the past, will enable them to judge of the future...it will qualify them as judges of the actions and designs of men; it will enable them to know ambition under every disguise it may assume; and knowing it, to defeat its views...." - Jefferson's Bill for the more general diffusion of knowledge for Virginia

"Although all men are born free, slavery has been the general lot of the human race. Ignorant--they have been cheated; asleep--they have been surprised; divided--the yoke has been forced upon them. But what is the lesson?...the people ought to be enlightened, to be awakened, to be united, that after establishing a government they should watch over it....It is universally admitted that a well-instructed people alone can be permanently free." - James Madison

"These principles form the bright constellation which has gone before us and guided our steps through an age of revolution and reformation. The wisdom of our sages and the blood of our heroes have been devoted to their attainment. They should be the creed of our political faith, the text of civic instruction, the touchstone by which to try the services of those we trust; and should we wander from them in moments of error or of alarm, let us hasten to retrace our steps and to regain the road which alone leads to peace, liberty, and safety." - Thomas Jefferson-First Inaugural Statement of Principles of Good Government



30 posted on 06/09/2019 1:57:59 PM PDT by loveliberty2 (`)
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