Posted on 06/07/2019 2:33:56 PM PDT by marktwain
On 26 November 2018, a young Canadian mother and her 10-month-old child were killed by an adult male grizzly bear. It was a horrific tragedy. Two sides quickly emerged in the discussion that followed. One side suggested that the woman “got what she deserved” because she and her partner were trappers. The other side suggested she could have been saved if she had a gun to use for protection. Lost in the push from these sides were the suffering of the father, the young couple's friends, and the Yukon community they were part of.
The coroner's report has now been released. It has worthwhile information about the terrible events that occurred last November.
Valérie Théorêt was the mother and partner, and Adèle Roesholt the 10-month-old daughter, of Germund Roeshot.
Gjermund Roesholt found his dead family after being attacked by the same bear that killed them. He used a 7mm Remington Magnum to stop the bear attack with multiple shots, including a shot to the head of the grizzly bear. The bear was stopped only six feet from him.
From reading the coroner's report, and from my researches of actual incidents where people used pistols to defend themselves against bears, it is plausible that if Valérie Théorêt had been carrying a holstered pistol, she, and her baby would still be alive.
Bear attacks are rare. Pistols do not guarantee survival, of course. Bear attacks are very dangerous, and often fatal. Perhaps the most dangerous is the surprise attack with predatory intentions, which it seems, is what the attack on Valérie
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It was not an option because of Canadian gun law.
This is ridiculous.
The bear didn’t need a gun. He was already a lot stronger than them and had claws.
Anyone who goes unarmed into the wilderness with a small child is danced near criminally negligent in my view. A 20 gauge shotgun loaded with slugs could very well have saved their lives.
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According to another article, the bear ambushed her, and she would not have had time to react and fire on the bear.
I read the coroner's report. It says the bear likely ambushed them, and was hidden two meters off the trail.
It does not say how far from the mother and child it was when it started the charge.
I could have been six feet, it could have been 50 feet.
But we all forget stuff....
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it IS a very sad and tragic story.
but it wasn’t done out of malice.
this is what bears sometimes do.
Many people are too naive or the real wackos think they are one with nature and others just don’t even consider the possibility.
It’s always tragic though. Except for the PETA freaks
Historically there has been more than few that have managed to draw a pistol and stop a in progress attack by a brown bear.
We will never know the answer in this case; but we do know that without a pistol she had no chance.
The best plan(if you must) is to travel in armed pairs of humans with at least a 15’ gap.
I’ve spent a lot of lonely nights alone sleeping on the banks of the Yukon River between Whitehorse and Dawson City which of course are two main cities in Yukon Territory but are hundreds of miles apart. I think “river miles” is about 475.
Being from Texas, I was of course scared s-less about bears. My first year, I didn’t even have bear alarms! I do now.
For what it’s worth, I think Canadian Gun laws are over stated. I slept with a 12 gauge Remington 870 loaded with Magnum triple ought buck AND a .50 S & W with an 8 3/4 barrel.
I “think” the barrel length is determinative of what gun you can bring in to Canada. My take is that they don’t want easily concealable pistols. But, I’m no expert and therefore not able to argue the issue.
The 50 cal is NOT “easily” concealable in street clothes. I had to carry it with a both shoulders harness because I’m old and the damn thing loaded is heavy.
Finally, I checked through customs into Canada from Alaska and provided my PALS paperwork and paid my 25 bucks (US). The officers and the process were absolutely pain free. I think the woman that got mauled “probably” just didn’t like guns.
“.......while working at their lawful occupation”
Must be on a payroll? What kind of BS is that?
A .45 auto would probably be the best choice for a pistol.
357 has been used very successfully to sedate bears. A 45acp is probably a good choice, but a revolver is many guides choice in Alaska.
A large caliber pistol would have “probably” ensured survival. A large caliber rife would ensure survival. In bear country carry both. If taken by surprise you many not be able to deploy and use your rifle. At that point the pistol on your hip is the instrument between life and death.
“Must be on a payroll? What kind of BS is that?”
Canuck BS...they are still too close to England in thought processes.
You can’t use a .44 magnum. The bear won’t lie still while you’re making The Speech.
It might work, but I wouldn't call it the best choice. A little light IMHO. Maybe a .357 but in brown bear country a .44 would be a better bet. A 10mm if you have to have an auto.
“You can’t use a .44 magnum. The bear won’t lie still while you’re making The Speech.”
Incorrect. “The Speech” is to be given after you’ve plugged him five times.
With a miner’s certificate, I still have to apply to the RCMP for a permit to carry a firearm in the woods.
I need a permission slip to carry my pistol to and from the range, FCOL!
City dwelling LIEberals are the cause of most of my grief.
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