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Boise Begins To Ask U.S. Supreme Court To Hear Its Appeal In Homeless Camping Case
The Idaho Statesman ^ | June 4, 2019 | Hayley Harding

Posted on 06/05/2019 1:46:01 PM PDT by truthkeeper

Boise will ask the Supreme Court of the United States to hear its appeal in the case of Martin v. Boise, the “camping lawsuit” that stemmed from a city ordinance that banned sleeping in public places.

The city filed a petition to the court to ask for it to extend the deadline for the city’s writ of certiorari, which is an order of a higher court to a lower court to send documents of a case so that the higher court may review a decision. That request starts the review of the case and the process for determining if the Supreme Court would take the case up...

(Excerpt) Read more at idahostatesman.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: homelessness; idaho; scotus
This is big. This ruling has negatively impacted many, many cities across the Western United States.

Sheer idiocy. I pray the Supreme Court takes it up.

1 posted on 06/05/2019 1:46:01 PM PDT by truthkeeper
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The 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals ruled in Sept. 2018 that cities can’t prosecute people for sleeping on the streets if they have nowhere else to go because it is unconstitutional cruel and unusual punishment. The court then said in April that it would not reconsider the ruling.

(From the article.)

2 posted on 06/05/2019 1:55:43 PM PDT by truthkeeper (All Trump Has Going for Him is the Votes)
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The left continues to push the myth that every wino, crazy and vagabond is part of the public and that, therefore, they have a right to use any public place they please up to and including dropping their fecal matter and drug needles.

Of course, they claim those can be curbed by enforcing laws against littering, satisfying their "right" to housing and the like.

Unless and until the lefttards are defeated, the only long term solution is to privatize public spaces. They can then evict the nuisances for trespass like posting "No Hunting" signs on your property.

I've heard that cities can cooperate with said arrangements by legalistic methods such as letting a campus block off a road through them once a year to assert their private ownership and then allowing the public to drive through it the rest of the year as a courtesy.

There may be a lot of such private-public partnerships set up should the Supreme Court fail to protect the rights of Boise citizens in this case.

3 posted on 06/05/2019 1:58:17 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (The politicized state destroys all aspects of civil society, human kindness and private charity.)
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To: truthkeeper

Just scoop them up like they did in Soylent Green.


4 posted on 06/05/2019 2:00:07 PM PDT by HighSierra5
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Unless and until the lefttards are defeated, the only long term solution is to privatize public spaces. They can then evict the nuisances for trespass like posting "No Hunting" signs on your property.

We finally got them off the greenbelt in Whittier, California because Cal-Trans, who owned the land, flexed their muscles and demanded it. However, that was only after months of public protests after they saw the consequences of the Martin ruling...a homeless tent city sprouting up on the beautiful greenbelt.

My understanding is that the cities of Whittier, Covina, and West Covina are in the process of some sort of joinder to the appeal, or maybe they are just submitting amicus briefs.

5 posted on 06/05/2019 2:10:22 PM PDT by truthkeeper (All Trump Has Going for Him is the Votes)
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The same rule for ALL.
This should be an easy one.
You can’t write laws which single out one group over another.
Lots of previous rulings to back it up.


6 posted on 06/05/2019 2:17:34 PM PDT by Zathras
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To: truthkeeper

A British Columbia judge played the same trick on us — with predictable results.

There are far better options, available to the “homeless”. While housing in the big cities is unaffordable for many; there are many small towns, where prices are downright cheap. These towns could use the extra population. Ordinary, middle-class people don’t move to a city, unless they can afford to live there. They stay put in rural areas, or smaller cities. The big-city “homeless” could afford a home, in small towns, or rural areas.


7 posted on 06/05/2019 2:20:48 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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Where I live the cops pick them up and they go a mental health clinic for ten days, then.. the Salvation Army and if they make there to Catholic Charities housing

If you see them back on the street again... there their a few days and start all over again.

I think some just move to California.


8 posted on 06/05/2019 2:30:14 PM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: HighSierra5

Pick them up, move them to the city limits and instruct them not to return until they can support themselves.

Cities DO NOT have an obligation to service these people.

They are vagabonds. They travel where ever the biggest handouts are.


9 posted on 06/05/2019 2:31:08 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Can I get a shout out for the person(s) who donated $2,000.00 from France? Thanks so much! Wow!)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

Yes, but it is hard to score heroin way out in the boon docks.


10 posted on 06/05/2019 2:37:16 PM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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Like I’ve always said, there are few homeless. The rest are illegal campers. It’s a lifestyle choice.


11 posted on 06/05/2019 2:39:13 PM PDT by Captain Jack Aubrey (There's not a moment to lose.)
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You’d be amazed at the entrepreneurship of drug cartels, and their retail franchises. Heroin use is rampant in small towns.

That said, I get what you’re saying & it’s true that the drug culture is a big attraction, for the denizens of urban homeless camps. Especially, where governments provide such additional amenities as “safe” injection sites, etc. There’s also the anonymity that comes with big cities, and is non-existent in small towns. If you’re going to use injection drugs, you probably don’t want your extended family, and all your childhood friends around to witness it.


12 posted on 06/05/2019 2:56:28 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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Yeah, but small towns aren’t nearly as good places to panhandle, score drugs, and hang out with all your other homeless buddies.


13 posted on 06/05/2019 3:02:15 PM PDT by -YYZ- (Strong like bull, smart like tractor.)
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Getting the drugs isn’t a problem any more (unfortunately). Panhandling would be quite difficult, where everyone knows your “story”. Good point about the ‘hanging out’. A whole subculture is being formed. People are going out of their way to become “homeless” and semi-nomadic; because they embrace the subculture. Think of the Gypsies, or the English, Scottish, and Irish Travelers. They embrace the nomadic lifestyle. There’s plenty of space for Travelers, outside the big cities — but, thanks to the usual suspects, big cities are working overtime to attract more than their fair share of the homeless.


14 posted on 06/05/2019 3:12:13 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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Bus tickets are cheaper than an appeal. Just sayin...


15 posted on 06/05/2019 3:14:33 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (#Dregs #DeplorableMe #BitterClinger #HillNO! #cishet #MyPresident #MAGA #Winning #covfefe #BuildIt)
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I posted my #14, directly from my Ping list; so, I didn’t see your post before then. Obviously, I think you make a good point.


16 posted on 06/05/2019 3:14:48 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: truthkeeper

Good to hear. I worked in Covina in a previous life. It was a nice town back then. Met my wife in nearby Azusa.


17 posted on 06/05/2019 6:51:24 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (The politicized state destroys all aspects of civil society, human kindness and private charity.)
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Know those cities well...I’m a San Gabriel Valley girl. A beautiful place once. Many parts still are.


18 posted on 06/05/2019 8:34:23 PM PDT by truthkeeper (All Trump Has Going for Him is the Votes)
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Yep - it allows those who don’t pay taxes to rule over those who do pay taxes....the “No taxes without representation” shtick is being turned so we need to demand “No representation without tax contributions”....


19 posted on 06/06/2019 3:43:16 AM PDT by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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I am well aware of the widespread use of heroin. Here in NH is one of the worse effected US states based on per capita usage. This stemmed from the fact that Oxy use started here and in the north Boston area. When all the pharmacies stopped selling Oxycontin, the next best thing for the addicts was heroin. Plus it was cheaper.

We have had two young men in their twenties get hooked on Oxycontin and one on heroin in my office here in Nashua, NH.
A city of 80K, 50 miles north of Boston. Both of these young men came from upper middle class families. They both were college graduates. One was successful in his survival from drug use. The other died shortly after leaving his employment at my business. My boss paid for his rehab. He was a smart young man, a really good athlete with a potentially great future. Now he is dead.


20 posted on 06/06/2019 5:25:24 AM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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