Posted on 06/05/2019 11:00:21 AM PDT by RevelationDavid
Great update on current anti-ship missiles And how they basically make all naval platforms obsolete. Will it take a massacre of our forces before we get it ?
Unlike Harpoon, LRASM fits in both the Mk. 41 vertical launch system silos of the Ticonderoga-class cruisers and Burke destroyers and the Mk. 57 silos on the new Zumwalt-class destroyers. This will allow individual ships to carry many more anti-ship missiles than ever before, although this will impact the number of other missiles, such as the SM-6 surface-to-air missile and ASROC anti-submarine rockets, in the ships overall inventory.
After decades of rapid innovation, the end of the Cold War and the subsequent Global War on Terror all but halted anti-ship missile development in the West. A focus on land operations in the Middle East and Central Asia sent Western navies struggling for relevance.
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Sure-all the enemy has to do is to keep cultivating the “civilian “norms” “ of combat roles for women in the USNAVY so they can have “cat fights” between the OOD and CIC on an Aegis cruiser or frigate. Such that navigation is left up to “who ever feels like it” MINUS visual observers on the ship, and minus the Actual captain of the ship. All while traversing the busiest merchant seaway approaches to one of the busiest seaports in the world.
Who needs a missile when you have a valley girl on the conn, and a ticked off black princess down in CIC and you are using the combat radar to steer the ship— as opposed to nautical charts, computers and ranging bottom sonar, markers and ship to ship communication?
I agree. Wish I had confidence our guys can fight off these new supersonic ship killers.
What you think would happen to China, NK, or Iran if they launched such an attack on a carrier group?
True, relative to US Naval warships and groups. The idea of a turd world crew using small vessels comes to mind against, say a large tanker (merchant vessel) or maybe the floating bomb that is an LNG ocean carrier. Also, commented elsewhere on US aviation capacity to launch these weapons with devastating accuracy (a football size area from 200 miles away).
All ships that do battle are battleships to millenials. And they probably think your fishing boat is a murdership. Lol.
If a carrier is hit and sunk we will.
No. Don’t be ridiculous. One nuclear strike on Hanoi would have ended the war and saved 10’s of thousand of our guys. So if that wasn’t excuse enough then nothing is going to make nuke retaliation justifiable.
“We need to reestablish Wake, Midway, Johnson Atoll, Adak, and all of those others.”
Actually, no that’s a very poor idea. Think of it, reestablishing those islands and weight them down with warfare equipment, supplies and people.
With the Hank Johnson Doctrine, all the enemy would have to do is blast one end of the island, it would lose it’s balance, tip over and all the stuff would just slide into the ocean.
I caught that right away. There is so much outright ignorance in journalism today.
“Visualize a new type of mine.”
How do you power it?
How do you ensure the US fleet doesn’t find them, note their origin and destroy the offending military?
> What you think would happen to China, NK, or Iran if they launched such an attack on a carrier group? <
A tramp freighter gets close enough to a carrier group to launch a missile. That freighter is then quickly sunk by U.S. forces.
Whose freighter was it in the first place? I suppose its course could have been tracked by satellite. Then you could make an educated guess.
If it were my freighter - and I wanted to hit a U.S. carrier - I’d cover that freighter’s tracks very carefully. I’d make it look like the freighter came out of Singapore or some place like that.
I’m sure the U.S. would make its best guess, then hit back hard.
Millennium Challenge 2002
Lieutenant General Paul Van Riper
The one and only laser experimntally deployed is not powerful enough to destroy missile. BBQ muzz boats, yes.........
We would know right away where the missile came from due to various technical signatures as well as intelligence sources. Wiping out a national strategic asset like a carrier group would result in a full bore war. It would be no different than a Pearl Harbor or 9/11.
You sound like somebody who never heard of the Prince of Wales and the Repulse.
“I would trust the Military brain trust over this story writer.”
Our “military brain trust” has led us to a place where our best destroyers can’t dodge slow tankers.
Our military geniuses have stood by while PC has so emasculated our military that our best warships can’t stay out of the way of slow tankers.
But by some military miracle, they will dodge salvos of hypersonic sea skimmers.....
Not always. Battleships disappeared totally, their armor could not protect against air attack.
Then we swung toward lighter, faster warships. But the weapons against them have improved by orders of magnitude.
Our best DDs, due to PC wrecking our crews and training, can’t avoid slow tankers moving at 12 knots. (Our admirals stood by while PC did this damage. They did nothing to stop it. Nobody resigned in protest.)
By what modern miracle do you expect our 30-knot unarmored warships to survive salvos of hypersonic ship-killers?
Have you heard of the Prince of Wales and the Repulse? Our “military geniuses” assured us that AA defenses would keep any air threads far away. How did that work out? Do you know why we stopped building dreadnoughts after that?
“Could that freighter get close enough to a carrier battle group to get off a decent shot?”
Your question betrays a lot. Today, our FA-18 equipped CVNs dare not get close enough to China, for example, to both protect themselves and launch their planes on land-attack missions. By the time our CVNs are in land-attack range of China, they have long been in range of land-based hypersonic ASMs.
Read up on the Prince of Wales and Repulse, and what our “military experts” thought about warships vs. aircraft then.
Diversity is our strength. *puke*
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