Posted on 05/28/2019 4:31:54 PM PDT by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
Most all of the transcripts from the JFK documents released in 2017 have found their way on line. These will too. The article being released next week appears to be only 7 pages long. I’m not sure if Garrow plans to attach some of the actual documents. He likely will, because he has done that with other material over the years.
It means they have confirmation from listening devices in King’s hotel rooms. Live recordings (1) Discussion of those Sex acts on phone (2)
It means that he did stuff and talked about it later. Recorded both times by 2 separate devices.
The Rape pushed it over the tolerance limit for the historian, I am guessing.
Or, the historian is being used to launch an attack on the Bureau. Doubtful, because if that was the idea the MSM would be running with the story.
It could just be the law of unintended consequences from the JFK doc. drop.
Get the popcorn!
This comment and the article from FreeRepuplic January 2007.
During the 1964 campaign, Martin Luther King gave the following endorsement:
I have no alternative but to urge every Negro and white person of goodwill to vote against Mr. Goldwater and to withdraw support from any Republican candidate that did not publicly disassociate himself from Senator Goldwater and his philosophy.
In that election, Barry Goldwater received 6% of the black vote. In the previous two presidential elections, GOP candidates Richard Nixon and Dwight Eisenhower received 32% and 39% respectively.
Since King’s endorsement, no Republican candidate has received more than 15% of the black vote in a national election.
The communists definitely got their money’s worth out of Dr. King.
8 posted on January 15, 2007 4:03:11 PM EST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
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https://humanevents.com/2006/02/24/jfk-and-rfk-were-right-to-wiretap-mlk/
Who has exposed the FBI coup? Judge Rosemary Collyer did years ago,now that the Democrats tried to say President Trump colluded with the Russians.
The traitor Obama has been breaking the law since he went in the White House,ask Maxine Waters.
https://www.conservativeinstitute.org/privacy/domestic-surveillance/maxine-waters-obama-database.htm
A former boss of mine, who died about 20 years ago, was in the National Guard detail that guarded those who marched from Selma to Montgomery in 1965. He said the group would settle in to camp late in the afternoon and every day, after the group was settled, cars would come screaming in with prostitutes from Montgomery for the leaders.
Just sort of held that close to the vest all these years, but I figured something would eventually trickle out. The information I was told seems to be consistent with the tidbits that have been reported.
I always had an idea that MLK had flaws that would detract from his public personna. Most iconic figures do. I suspect that those on the left who are committed to discrediting him have purposes that will hurt us all.
Martin Luther King makes Bill Clinton look like a choir boy. Ignoring King’s deviant lifestyle is hypocritical and negligent especially in today’s post Weinstein climate. While zero evidence ever existed to accuse Kavanaugh of anything, there’s a treasure trove of official documents to completely condemn Martin Luther King. A litany of recordings, summary documents and collaborating details have been all but ignored.
And everyone keeps asking, why, or why now? Or who gains from the truth about King?... Hoover had the information for years, he never took it public. While there was no national security basis to keep these files sealed, MLK’s files were hidden among JFK’s for 50 years. Undoubtedly to shield King’s legacy. Unfortunately for King, time ran out. The date for sequestering the JFK files expired November 2017.
“President Donald Trump ordered the release of documents relating to President John F. Kennedy from the National Archives, and those documents contain a dossier on King.” What they reveal, according to Fox News and other sources [Washington Examiner}, is that King had multiple extramarital affairs, likely sired an out-of-wedlock child with his mistress, and had a penchant for orgies.” While most of this was previously known, these documents provide hard evidence of the proof which includes the sexually explicit details occurring at the orgies. The only real-news, is that the National Archives now contains recordings with a written summary of a forcible rape at MLK’s hotel room and his involvement with that incident.
Claims that these documents were an attempt by J. Edgar Hoover or others to slander King are patently false. MLK is responsible for his actions. The FBI (Hoover) never exposed King, and the information was kept as an internal report. That report was sealed from the public for 50 years, not eternity.
Claims that an expert historian and famed author of numerous writings about MLK are attempting to slander King are equally absurd.
Like you, I heard some stories told to me in the 1980’s, but nothing as bad as this. At the time, it was remarkable because they were black women and did not like MLK. That was puzzling since the assumption is that all
admired King a great deal. Now, it’s clear why they did not care for him.
You said,”I suspect that those on the left who are committed to discrediting him have purposes that will hurt us all.”
This is not coming from the left. If it were, CNN, MSNBC, NYT, etc would be running the story 24/7. The left is quiet.
These are the revealing facts that have been sealed from public consumption for half a century. The seal on JFK’s documents expired, King’s files were hidden there. And there will be more since thousands of pages are awaiting review. This may have been the worst of it, we’ll see over the next 1 1/2 years.
King discredited himself, but his accomplishments remain. I suspect, if his life had ended sooner, someone else in the civil rights movement would have emerged as an effective leader. He certainly had the most charisma of the ones in the forefront during his time.
In the few minutes I listened to Rush Limbaugh yesterday at lunch, he was speculating that the radical left wants to torpedo the legacy of MLK because:
a) MLK’s relationship with the Christian church, which is now intolerable to the left, and
b) identity politics of the radical left has a hard time accepting MLK’s call to judge men based on the content of their character and not the color of their skin
That being said, Rush pointed out the hesitation of many on the left to raze the legacy of a man so symbolic of the civil rights movement and so revered by African-Americans and, frankly, many freedom-loving people in our nation regardless of race.
I cannot watch it closely enough to ID the actors involved, but at this point, I wouldn’t bet the farm on who the real perpetrators are behind the scenes
From your article: “ I could not find one “sermon” where he preached Jesus Christ and Him crucified. What I saw is that this man “preached” a social gospel using Black churches as his springboard.”
Does a Christian cheat his way through college, seminary and theology studies by stealing others’ academic work?
Does a Christian steal the sermons of other ministers and preach them as his own from the pulpit?
Does a Christian hire prostitutes, conduct sex shows, command sex acts, hold orgies... ad naueum.
If Martin Luther King. Jr. was a Christian, then Bill Clinton is a Saint!
Sunshine is the best disinfect. The truth shall set him free.
King’s files are open, let the chips file where they may.
Would you have suggested that PDJT comb through the files and reclassify everything to be buried another 50 years. Same with JFK files. Why are we shielding the truth and protecting anyone, anymore? It’s been far too long. Americans will cope and deal with that reality, somehow.
Nothing will change much. I few statues will fall and that’s it.
Blacks need to return to the days when they were not a monolithic democrat voting block and vote their own values and beliefs. Many are conservatives, it just hasn’t dawned on them, yet.
No, it is time to get history in the open. As usual, there will be arguments over what it all means. Accusations will fly that MLK’s was purposefully tarnished by racist, over-zealous g-men. I hate that part of it.
Truth is, man is a flawed creature that is corrupted by his selfishness and desires. Few can stand up to intense scrutiny of their actions and character. Human nature is riddled with warts. MLK was just a man. It would have been better for us all had he been pure as the driven snow. It remains to be seen who becomes aggrieved as a result of the information, and more important, who tries to use it to their political advantage . . . and how.
It will just be something that will be used to start another argument . . . or renew an old one. We have enough problems without this coming to light. I just wish we could work together constructively to make this a better, stronger nation.
Right MLK was just a man. And he was not alone in the march for civil rights. Following his death, he morphed into an idol.
Congress should have reviewed his files privately before even discussing canonizing King as a saint and naming a holiday for him. They could have compromised and made a ‘Civil Rights Day’ to honor all that participated and brought about constructive change.
The blatant continuous plagiarism, his career of academic fraud could have been sited as the dis-qualifier, not his sordid sex life.
Ted Kennedy knew and likely listened to the sex-tapes. So did many other congressmen and they did not care. They were looking to corral an entire race onto their democrat plantation.
And if the boogey man, Hoover wanted to destroy King and end the CR movement, he could have easily done so.
They could have busted down the door and arrested King for numerous embarrassing crimes illegal at the time. Adultery, assisted rape, sexual assault, sex-trafficking with prostitutes, unnatural sex act-stuff, etc. And what if one girl was under age of consent?
Hoover could have shut King down in a heartbeat. And the hotels where King was conducting sex parties or sleeping with a non-spouse would have kicked King out, had they had known the purpose of their hotel rooms was to be a brothel. One phone call to the front desk is all it took.
Which makes a person wonder who was funding these expense road tours, luxury hotel rooms, air-travel, and paying for the booze and prostitutes?....
Kings church, the communist party group, King
Thanks for adding this AdmSmith. From the link above— Why was J. Edgar Hoover watching MLK and why did AG Bobby Kennedy authorize this surveillance?
New revelations from secret FBI files show that the civil rights icon had the morals of a goat – and that he had a troubling relationship with Kremlin agents.
Few stories are guaranteed to get liberals in a greater lather than the 1960s surveillance of Martin Luther King, Jr. by the Federal Bureau of Investigation. That the FBI, under the leadership of J. Edgar Hoover – the notorious micromanager who was possibly gay and maybe even partly black himself – conducted years of secret surveillance on the civil rights icon has been a sore point with progressives for decades.
What the Bureau reputedly discovered about King, especially his extramarital activities with a string of lovers, hardly seemed to comport with the clergyman’s saintly public image. Neither was it exactly a secret that MLK’s private life verged on the sordid, since members of the martyred minister’s inner circle have previously gone on record about his weakness for women.
Nevertheless, what David Garrow published this week has produced great gnashing of teeth, not least because the author is an esteemed left-liberal historian and winner of the Pulitzer Prize for a celebrated biography of King. If Professor Garrow has an ideological motive, it’s hardly anti-King, which only makes his findings more painful.
First, let it be noted that Garrow ran his explosive piece in Standpoint, a center-right British magazine, after it was turned down by several mainstream media outlets which didn’t want to touch a story this hot. And hot indeed it is, including details of King’s cavorting with north of 40 women not his wife, as well as seductions of parishioners, full-blown orgies, plus an apparent illegitimate daughter. Worst of all, King reportedly watched and cracked jokes while witnessing the rape of a church-going lady by a friend and fellow man of the cloth. In any age this is shocking stuff, and never more than in the #MeToo era.
Garrow uncovered this unpleasant account in FBI files while diligently researching in the National Archives. In 1977, a Federal court ordered the Bureau’s wiretap recordings of King to be held under seal for 50 years, but some transcripts, once classified, wound up in the archives, thanks to post-Cold War declassifications, where Garrow found them while digging in the files – something which previous historians failed to do.
There can be no doubt of their authenticity. Garrow’s opponents are now coming out of the woodwork and smearing him for telling unpalatable truths, attempting to cast doubt on the archives. The notion that veteran FBI agents would fabricate secret wiretap transcripts which they knew were likely to wind up on the desk of the obsessively detailed-oriented Mr. Hoover is patently absurd.
While King’s revolting sexual conduct is getting all the media attention, that’s not the important part of this story, historically speaking. Garrow’s report includes details about the FBI’s infamous Counterintelligence Program (COINTELPRO), which in the 1960s and early 1970s surveilled and employed dirty tricks against radical groups which Hoover assessed as threats to national security. These FBI operations against student radicals and various minority groups like the Black Panthers have generated a great deal of polemical literature. That COINTELPRO’s greatest success was breaking the back of the Ku Klux Klan is less frequently noted.
The FBI has long been criticized for surveilling King, who over the half-century since his assassination has become a secular saint complete with his own Federal holiday (an honor bestowed on no other American). On the Left, it’s an article of faith that Hoover’s motivation for spying on MLK was prejudice, even racism, pure and simple.
Garrow’s account makes clear that was not the case. Hoover’s reason for ordering the Bureau to closely watch King beginning in 1963 was fear of Kremlin influence on the civil rights leader. The essence of this story has been known for decades. Hoover worried about Stanley Levison, a left-wing attorney who entered King’s orbit in late 1956, quickly becoming MLK’s closest confidant. Levison served as all-purpose consigliere to King and authored some of the civil rights leader’s most famous speeches.
Hoover fretted about the Communist Party of the USA (CPUSA) infiltrating the civil rights movement, particularly because the FBI knew that the party had secret members, known only to CPUSA leadership, who were employed to clandestinely influence non-communist groups. Worse, the Bureau knew that Stanley Levison was one such secret CPUSA member.
They knew this thanks to Jack and Morris Childs, two brothers who joined the party as youths and rose high up, including serving as Soviet spies (any line between the CPUSA and Soviet intelligence existed in theory, not in fact). However, by the 1950s the Childs brothers had flipped and become FBI moles inside the party, passing the Bureau reams of information about the CPUSA’s inner workings as the cornerstone of Operation SOLO, which became one of the FBI’s great Cold War successes.
The Childs told the FBI about Levison’s secret party ties, so the Bureau began watching Levison. They discovered that he was meeting with Viktor Lesiovsky, a Soviet diplomat assigned to the United Nations in New York, who rose to become special assistant to the UN secretary general, but the FBI knew that Lesiovsky was really a KGB officer.
This rang enough alarm bells within the Bureau that Hoover informed President John F. Kennedy about counterintelligence concerns regarding King’s inner circle; these concerns were endorsed by Attorney General Robert F. Kennedy, the president’s brother. This led to a White House meeting on June 22, 1963, during which the president asked King to sever ties with Levison, whom Kennedy termed a “Kremlin agent.” This was the very height of the Cold War, the United States and the Soviet Union nearly had a nuclear war between each other a few months before, yet King ultimately refused to part with Levison, who remained MLK’s top adviser until his assassination in Memphis on April 4, 1968. It was King’s unwillingness to cut ties with Levison which led Attorney General Bobby Kennedy to authorize full FBI surveillance of the civil rights leader shortly before President Kennedy’s own assassination in Dallas on November 22, 1963.
Garrow adds important detail to this story, including the fact that the FBI was aware of Levison’s role as a major CPUSA bagman. Between 1957 and 1962, Bureau files reveal, Levison gave the party an astonishing $76,500 ($650,000 in 2019). Since Levison was not a wealthy man, this funding can be assumed to have come from the Kremlin in some fashion, since communist parties overseas were funded by the KGB through various clandestine methods.
More troubling still is Garrow’s revelation from FBI files that Levison gifted his new friend King with $10,000 in cash during 1957-58, an amount equivalent to $87,000 today. The Bureau learned of this donation from the IRS, leading Hoover to exasperation. Given Levison’s Kremlin connections, there is reasonable suspicion that this cash came from the KGB too. Which makes the FBI’s apparent failure to inform the White House about Levison’s role as CPUSA bagman, including payments to King, rather difficult to explain.
Garrow concludes his piece with the assessment that what he learned from FBI files about King “poses so fundamental a challenge to his historical stature as to require the most complete and extensive review possible.” Given the vituperative criticism that Garrow has gotten for publishing his findings, there’s no reason to think that historians and journalists will be eager to dig deeper into the archives about King’s secret life. However, Garrow makes clear that J. Edgar Hoover was right to have grave counterintelligence concerns about the civil rights leader and his secret connections to the Soviet Union. Given high public interest in the clandestine role of Moscow’s spies in American politics, thanks to Donald J. Trump, the role of Stanley Levison, a known Kremlin agent, in Martin Luther King, Jr.’s inner circle now merits dispassionate examination by experts, not partisans.
BTW, maybe I just missed it but I’ve not come across reaction from the MeToo movement re MLK. Likewise, author and former prosecutor Linda Fairstein, who ater all these years lcame under fire for her role in the Central Park Five case, has not been criticized, to my knowledge, by MeToo for her outrageous defense of Harvey Weinstein.
People here want to deny and defend Martin Luther King, Jr - But this is indefensible and it will get worse.
Garrow, the researcher and author, just revealed that he had heard about the rape and assault in the 1980’s from several DOJ men that had listened to the tapes.
The tapes exist along with transcripts and summaries. As far as all the sordid sex parties, that’s true as well because King himself is recorded making the arrangements, booking the rooms, and inviting new people to his orgies. Likewise, he discusses some of the sexual activities afterwards, and he is being recorded.
And there is video surveillance in the public areas, such as hotel hallways, where women are carousing and entering/exiting the rooms.
He is so busted, there’s no denial.
And Hoover/ JFK/ RFK would have been derelict in their duty not to have wired a political activist whose funded and working hand-in-hand with the Communist Party.
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