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The cost of inaction is too high (only 11.64 years left)
Napa Valley Register ^ | 5/24/19 | Lynn Goldfarb

Posted on 05/25/2019 5:11:24 AM PDT by Libloather

“We need action on the climate” (May 20) supports HR7763, better known as “Carbon Dividends,” a bill currently in the floor of Congress that would fossil fuel corporations, rather than consumers and taxpayers, responsible for the costs of fighting climate change.

This would be only fair, since those mega-corporations have spent over $2 billion of the past decades to clandestinely spread lies about saying global warming didn’t exist, then that it wasn’t man-made, etc. even as their own scientists were warning them about the existential dangers continuing use of their products would create (Scientific American, “Dark Money” and “How to Win Friends and Bamboozle People About Climate Change” and the Union of Concerned Scientists’ website, “Climate Deception Dossiers”).

The award-winning site, desmogblog.org has detailed documentation of every professional climate denier, their qualifications (or lack of) and which fossil fuel corporations secretly fund these denier-for-hire “experts.”

(Excerpt) Read more at napavalleyregister.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: climatechange; fake; fossilfuels; fraud; globalwarming; hoax; industry; scam
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On May 18, Washington’s Gov. Jay Inslee released a 38-page document which systematically translates the GND’s lofty goals...

I'm pretty sure Autocorrect changed that from 'lefty'.

I get the loot confiscation angle. Greedy radicals will always exist. What I don't understand is why the kooks can't SHOW everyone what the planet would look like after the New Green Scam is enacted. Total Grizzly Adams eating nothing but tree bark, no Starbucks within 5000 miles, and the elimination of every internal combustion engine.

Show us deniers how to do it. Or is that just another aspect of the scam?

1 posted on 05/25/2019 5:11:24 AM PDT by Libloather
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Luckily corporations never pass on costs to consumers...


2 posted on 05/25/2019 5:14:08 AM PDT by EEGator
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But.. But.. But.. AOC said that anyone who really believes in the 12 year deadline has the brain of a sea sponge... I am so confused....


3 posted on 05/25/2019 5:18:51 AM PDT by ArtDodger
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The best part of this screed is that it’s just chockfull of numbers and citations that sound authoritative, but almost certainly result from methodology that is questionable at best (I think back to the IPCC report about 10 or 15 years ago that told us the Himalayan glaciers would be gone in 25 years - total bull-pucky, pulled out of someone’s posterior).

My favorite: “Canada passed a carbon tax that will give most people more money” Right: a piece of legislation is going to create wealth (and distribute it!) in and of itself. I can’t wait for Canada to pass a law giving us a perpetual motion machine that will make this whole controversy moot.


4 posted on 05/25/2019 5:25:16 AM PDT by Stosh
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This nonsense has significant economic consequences even when there is no overt government action. Take a good look at the auto industry and be very, very reluctant to invest your hard earned money in that industry. The major auto manufacturers have replaced solid market research with policies rooted in political correctness and pseudoscience. They have invested as an industry hundreds of billions of capital into the researching, developing the technology and infrastructure and the production of electric vehicles. Unfortunately most consumers prefer and will only buy cars and trucks that feature the reliability and convenience of the internal combustion engine. electric vehicles sit unsold or are sold at money losing discounts. The huge investment these companies have made is returning nothing on investment. The debts remain. The dead money is squandered capital that will drag the auto industry down for a very long time. Be very careful where you invest.


5 posted on 05/25/2019 5:34:55 AM PDT by allendale (.)
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With only 11 1/2 years left of life (according to these warmist loser anti-science nitwits), I guess my give-f*** is emerging. Since we all will be dead soon, Let’s PARTY! Maybe I’ll go out this afternoon and burn a few old tractor tires to celebrate my becoming “woke”.


6 posted on 05/25/2019 6:03:20 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: Libloather
This would be only fair, since those mega-corporations have spent over $2 billion of the past decades to clandestinely spread lies about saying global warming didn’t exist, then that it wasn’t man-made, etc. even as their own scientists were warning them about the existential dangers continuing use of their products would create

When the flawed hypothesis of 'man-made global warming' was first discussed in public hearings and 'mega-big-oil corporations' were were named as the existential danger, corporate leaders met to discuss the issue and untangle facts from 'science' 'fiction'.

They looked at the alleged evidence and formed their own conclusions.

There was nothing nefarious. They simply discussed the issue.

7 posted on 05/25/2019 6:11:55 AM PDT by yesthatjallen
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The eruption of Mount Pinatubo in the Philippines released more green house gasses in one eruption than the whole industrial revolution.


8 posted on 05/25/2019 6:16:43 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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I look to the “Deadliest Catch” for my take on what global temperatures are doing. This year show, based on the winter of 2019, said that in the Bering Sea had some of the coldest weather in years and that the ice pack came further south than it has in years.

Thank you President Trump for making it cold again in Alaska!


9 posted on 05/25/2019 6:19:17 AM PDT by LeonardFMason
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reliability and convenience of the internal combustion engine

Convenient because there are lots of gas stations for a quick fillup. But electric motors and batteries are pretty reliable. The main problems are battery range and battery life. Those are solvable but that also means that existing designs will become obsolete.

10 posted on 05/25/2019 6:19:58 AM PDT by palmer (...if we do not have strong families and strong values, then we will be weak and we will not survive)
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I look to the “Deadliest Catch” for my take on what global temperatures are doing. This year show, based on the winter of 2019, said that in the Bering Sea had some of the coldest weather in years and that the ice pack came further south than it has in years.

Thank you President Trump for making it cold again in Alaska!


11 posted on 05/25/2019 6:20:04 AM PDT by LeonardFMason
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The eruption of Mount Pinatubo in the Philippines released more green house gasses in one eruption than the whole industrial revolution.

The Pinatubo eruption released about 40 Mt of CO2, which is about a half day's worth of manmade CO2. Sometimes people add the water vapor, but that wasn't much more and is transient.

12 posted on 05/25/2019 6:22:29 AM PDT by palmer (...if we do not have strong families and strong values, then we will be weak and we will not survive)
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he Bering Sea had some of the coldest weather in years and that the ice pack came further south than it has in years.

The Bering Sea had the least ice on record this past February.

13 posted on 05/25/2019 6:24:48 AM PDT by palmer (...if we do not have strong families and strong values, then we will be weak and we will not survive)
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Sure. Let’s destroy the industries. Then we can all go and search for food in the forest, because there won’t be any jobs.


14 posted on 05/25/2019 7:18:32 AM PDT by Innovative
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The last 2 bullets on the Green New Deal prove it is all a farce. If they really believed that the world was ending, you don’t tack on universal healthcare and “living wage” demands. You just decarbonize the economy and save everyone’s lives.

We can see the same evidence in the policy details elsewhere. If you really think sea levels will rise catastrophically, why haven’t you changed the flood insurance program to ban rebuilding within 10 feet of sea level?


15 posted on 05/25/2019 7:43:53 AM PDT by tbw2
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It’s 0bama Care, Part II.


16 posted on 05/25/2019 8:02:31 AM PDT by NativeSon ( Grease the floor with Crisco when I dance the Disco)
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I did a search and fund the information had been censored so there is pro global warming information and disinformation and the older stuff is missing. It is hard to find the truth anymore.


17 posted on 05/25/2019 8:07:00 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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Now that the rain is ending the idiots here in NorCal are back to repeating the meme: Climate Change Climate Change Climate Change...

They’re like zombies. The winter was one of the wettest ever and the snowpack is at 160% or more....Squaw Valley had 700+ inches of snow. There is NO drought in CA. KSFO is playing sound bites from 2013 with idiots talking about how the reservoirs would never again have water levels as high as they did then. Now the same reservoirs are on overflow watch. Le Deluge is imminent.

Meanwhile, up in Wino Land, the cheese eaters are droning “Climate Change!” with wide terrified eyes.

Yeah. It’s climate change right about now...usually called “summertime”.


18 posted on 05/25/2019 8:34:15 AM PDT by Regulator
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Hey P-man, you sound like a True Believer!

So riddle me this bubba....howz come the West had another banner year of great snow, lovely rain, and Montana had the coldest damn winter in decades? Even beat the winter of ‘48 that brought my dad to Arizona...

We also had a banner year just two years ago, 2016-17.

Man them anthropogenic changes are just ducky, huh? Good snow, plentiful water, and a good shiver if ya live in Bozeman.

Just a little word from my 6+ decades on the planet out here in the American West: looks bout normal. Some places up, some places down...but the weather don’t care what the little termites in their cars and planes are doing. It jus’ keeps on truckin’.


19 posted on 05/25/2019 8:45:34 AM PDT by Regulator
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Not censored. I've seen the Pinatubo claim for at least a decade. It was vague and unsupported. In contrast there are legit writeups about Pinatubo http://pubs.usgs.gov/pinatubo/gerlach/ that are not "pro global warming".
20 posted on 05/25/2019 10:38:40 AM PDT by palmer (...if we do not have strong families and strong values, then we will be weak and we will not survive)
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