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The cost of inaction is too high (only 11.64 years left)
Napa Valley Register ^ | 5/24/19 | Lynn Goldfarb

Posted on 05/25/2019 5:11:24 AM PDT by Libloather

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To: Regulator
Man them anthropogenic changes are just ducky, huh?

If some of that extra snow is due to global warming, then great, let's have more of it. If not, it's just a natural cycle, so who cares. As for the record cold, that's debatable. Montana's record is -70°F from January 20, 1954. I don't think that will be broken again, and good riddance. It's absolutely nuts to whine about warmer winters.

21 posted on 05/25/2019 10:42:38 AM PDT by palmer (...if we do not have strong families and strong values, then we will be weak and we will not survive)
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I've seen the Pinatubo claim for at least a decade. ...

The argument against has been censored. My search had no contrarians in the list. There used to be a lot of contrarians but they are the ones deleted.

22 posted on 05/25/2019 1:10:48 PM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: palmer

The problem with batteries is the fuels that generate the electricity (that power the plug-in stations); THOSE are often still using fossil fuels.


23 posted on 05/25/2019 5:07:29 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: mountainlion
Someone took their own stuff down or didn't bother to renew the website or it was on a website that went under. If you want to buy a domain, post stuff on it and host it on dreamhost, or do it yourself on vultr, digital ocean, or linode and pay any of those services $5 a month, you will not be censored. Dreamhost hosted some nazi site, I forgot which one. They were attacked and everyone's sites suffered but they kept it running as long as they could.

In all those hosting services there is the opposite of censorship. They try their best to keep you running and published. Now granted if you use Facebook or Twitter or one of those leftist organizations you can rest assured they will at least shadow-ban you.

24 posted on 05/25/2019 10:14:09 PM PDT by palmer (...if we do not have strong families and strong values, then we will be weak and we will not survive)
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To: kearnyirish2

Yes. Any rapid charging station will be run by fossil. I get a chuckle out of the charging stations with solar panels. The dummies who believe those solar panels are anything more than decoration do not understand energy production at all.


25 posted on 05/25/2019 10:15:53 PM PDT by palmer (...if we do not have strong families and strong values, then we will be weak and we will not survive)
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The whole scheme has become smoke & mirrors, and warn young people it is just to get them to voluntarily accept a lower standard of living (no private automobiles or homes, no children, no passing on of an inheritance - since the “green new deal” has provisions in it to take money from white people and give it to non-whites).

From the NYT 2/21/29: “The goal of the Green New Deal is to reduce greenhouse gas emissions in order to avoid the worst consequences of climate change while also trying to fix societal problems like economic inequality and racial injustice.”


26 posted on 05/26/2019 4:46:51 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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Google and others guide you to what they want you to to see. They do not bring up all sources especially what they want to shadow ban. There is a lot of information that the shadow ban search will not show.
27 posted on 05/26/2019 4:47:09 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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Yes, Google especially adjusts their algorithms to guide searches to the mainstream sites only. I found the book where the Pinatubo reference comes from: Heaven and Earth: Global Warming—The Missing Science" I will try to find the book itself in digital form. But his 2009 claim was taken up in a science paper: "Volcanic Versus Anthropogenic Carbon Dioxide" (Eos, Vol. 92, No. 24, 14 June 2011).

The paper states: The climate change debate has revived and reinforced the belief, widespread among climate skeptics, that volcanoes emit more CO2 than human activities [Gerlach, 2010; Plimer, 2009] and

The nearly 9-hour duration of both the Mount St. Helens and Pinatubo paroxysms gives average CO2 emission rates of about 0.001 and 0.006 gigaton per hour, respectively. Intriguingly, the anthropogenic CO2 emission rate of 35 gigatons per year— equivalent to 0.004 gigaton per hour—is similar. So, for a few hours during paroxysms, individual volcanoes may emit about as much or more CO2 than human activities.

It is true there is much bullshit published in science papers in the name of science. Some things that come to mind are "increased extreme weather" which upon analysis is just weather, nothing special with plenty of historical precedent. But the carbon dioxide source debate is completed for now in science. If you look at the people that cite the 2011 paper, you get papers like this 2012 paper: "Another claim concedes the rise but asserts that its cause is volcanic. For example, Plimer (2009) declares that volcanoes emit far more CO2 than humans. Corollaries of this claim state that emissions from one large volcano, or from seafloor vents, dwarf various human sources. But as Terry Gerlach observes in Eos, Trans. Amer. Geophys. Union, such claims flatly contradict the science (Gerlach 2011)." https://journals.ametsoc.org/doi/pdf/10.1175/WCAS-D-12-00008.1

So while it is true that Plimer's claim is suppressed from google search results, it happens to be wrong. Plimer's book was not scientific, yet it was reviewed and considered by some scientists and found to be incorrect on the Pinatubo claim.

28 posted on 05/26/2019 7:18:08 AM PDT by palmer (...if we do not have strong families and strong values, then we will be weak and we will not survive)
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I am a contrarian and enjoy sarcasm. The best match up of increased CO2 in the atmosphere is the graph of the increase in postage fees. The global warming/climate change religion totally covers up the effect of water vapor in the weather and climate argument. I enjoy an Alex Jones rant sometimes and he is just as accurate as the deep state news media.
29 posted on 05/26/2019 7:38:12 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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Google supressed this result to page 3: https://fcpp.org/2010/06/17/4-days-of-volcano-wipes-out-5-years-of-human-climate-change-penance/ The specific claim is not the same as the one in Ian Plimer's book, but has the same conclusion: "The volcanic ash emitted into the Earth’s atmosphere in just four days – yes – FOUR DAYS ONLY by that volcano in Iceland, has totally erased every single effort you have made to reduce the evil beast, carbon. And there are around 200 active volcanoes on the planet spewing out this crud any one time – EVERY DAY."

Volcanic ash is " 65% SiO2, 18% Al2O3, 5% FetO3, 2% MgO, 4% CaO, 4% Na2O, and 0.1% S. Thirty seven trace metals are reported including Ba, Cu, Mn, Sr, V, Zn, and Zr" (from a paper about Mt. St Helen). There is CO2 emitted of course, but a low quantity compared to fossil fuel burning, and other manmade sources. The weight of the ash emitted is irrelevant. It is clear that sites like that are incoherent. They make it very easy for Google and others to create algorithms to suppress them. They also make it easy to show how incoherent and unscientific such claims are.

30 posted on 05/26/2019 8:00:19 AM PDT by palmer (...if we do not have strong families and strong values, then we will be weak and we will not survive)
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To: mountainlion
I agree completely that water vapor controls the climate and the amount of water vapor is determined by the average weather, which ultimately comes from geography. There are deserts in the southwest allowing extra heat. If the mountains were not there to block moisture, there would be no deserts and the earth as a whole would be a bit cooler.

I like Watts Up With That where they often ridicule the spurious correlations and random things blamed on global warming. They also present and debate issues like volcanic CO2. What I do is add "WUWT" to whatever I am searching. I got this nice result just now:

'Climate change created ISIS' is now #49 on the 'official list' of things supposedly caused by global warming

31 posted on 05/26/2019 8:15:45 AM PDT by palmer (...if we do not have strong families and strong values, then we will be weak and we will not survive)
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