Posted on 05/19/2019 1:51:35 PM PDT by libstripper
Illinois Republicans unhappy at the influence the Democrat-controlled city of Chicago holds over the state are looking at trying to blow the Windy City out of the state altogether -- despite the long odds that such a push would face.
A new report by Pew Trusts' Stateline shines light on an effort by the state’s GOP to turn the state red by turning the blue city into its own state.
(Excerpt) Read more at msn.com ...
I really think we should have 100 states.
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And just imagine how big the Federal government would be come!
Purge their voter rolls and make everyone re-register to vote. Problem solved.
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Best idea of all. City would remain D, but not be able to dominate the state with stolen elections. Same thing might work in CA if done to LA and SF. Or, best of all, the whole state.
That wouldn’t work. While you’d have legit Democrats in the GOP districts, the “Republicans” you’d have in Dem districts, especially no-mans’ land areas, would be leftist Demonrat puppets. That was already a problem by the 1970s. In fact, you’d likely not even have fake Republicans in those seats, but 3rd party leftists (which is what happened in Washington, DC, which guaranteed Republicans minority representation — both of those two seats are now held by ultraleftist “Independents”).
Isn’t one of the states that voted to give their electoral votes to the popular vote winner? Sounds they’re making the like argument for the EC.
Benton Fraser could finally legally carry a gun then.
I don’t think that “interstate compact” would pass Constitutional muster. There’s never been a situation where a state would potentially cast their EVs for the candidate who lost the state.
Just for shiggles, I’d hope Trump wins the popular vote (despite the voter fraud in CA which delivered it nationally to Hillary) so that the states that vote Dem have to cast their EVs for him. You’d see a swift scramble with the Dems going to judges to get an injunction against the compact saying it “disenfranchised” the majority of voters, along with pressuring the Electors to vote for the Dem candidate.
Why stop at Chicago
Merge Milwaukee, Chicago and Gary into one state,
The rest free
Conspiracy to subvert the constitution regarding the electoral college.
Sell Chicago and it’s suburbs to Canada,
Sounds good in principle, but living in Northern Illinois, would I need a passport to cut over to Michigan?
I like poutine!
Now, now, let’s not be so hasty. I, for one, would welcome a State of Chicagoland that took in not only all of Cook County, IL but also Lake County, IN (Gary, etc.), Lake County, IL, and Kenosha, Racine and Mileaukee Counties in WI (with GOP areas not on the lakefront being given the option of seceding from those counties and remaining in their current states). I’d gladly spot the RATs 12 guaranteed EVs from the State of Chicagoland in return for our 11 safely GOP EVs from the detoxed State of Illinois, 11 safely GOP EVs from the Gary-less State of Indiana, and 9 safely GOP EVs from the Milwaukee-less State of Wisconsin. A 31-12 GOP advantage in EVs from the WI-IL-IN region is a lot better than our 21-20 EV advantage from the area in 2016 (with Trump’s narrow 0.76% victory in WI keeping us from a 30D, 11R EV result) and leagues better than the 42-0 RAT EV drubbing from 2018 (when Obama’s margin in Gary far exceeded his statewide victory margin).
There is no such animal as an Illinois Republican. At one time there were many Illinois Republicans, but they were extinct by the 1990’s. A new species of spineless cowards now pretend to be Illinois Republicans.
Make Chicago a District, not a State. Like Washington, D.C., District of Columbia, Chicago can be the “District of Chicago.” That way they get no Senators.
Separate Chicago and give it to California, then create 2 new states - Jefferson (Northern California, Eastern Oregon and Eastern Washington.) and Adirondack (Upstate New York).
Why make Chicago another state? Why not cede it to Venezuela as its capital? They are both in the same financial straits
2016 Election:
Illinois voted as it usually does, with a pronounced Chicagoland/downstate split. Though the majority of Illinois appears to be Republican. Cook County and the six collar counties hold 65 percent of the state’s population. The area’s dense, primarily Democratic population brought Clinton ahead by more than 800,000 votes. Cook County held the largest margin for Clinton, where she outperformed Trump by more than 50 percentage points. On the other end, the county with the largest percentage of Trump voters was downstate Wayne County, where more than 80 percent of voters chose Trump.
See Map @ link
https://www.chicagotribune.com/data/ct-illinois-president-results-20161108-htmlstory.html
That wouldn’t work. While you’d have legit Democrats in the GOP districts, the “Republicans” you’d have in Dem districts, especially no-mans’ land areas, would be leftist Demonrat puppets
Some of what you cite did go go but it was dealt with. But this is not Ohio politics. Explain to me if that didn’t work how we had beside governors Chicago city Republican Aldermen,Cook county Sheriffs, states attorneys and county board president along with Chicago area state senators as well as President Reagan got elected.
How about sticking to stuff going on in Lucas and Hamilton counties in Ohio instead if shooting your mouth about an area you claim you know but don’t.
Now, now, let’s not be so hasty. I, for one, would welcome a State of Chicagoland that took in not only all of Cook County, IL but also Lake County, IN (Gary, etc.), Lake County, IL, and Kenosha, Racine and Mileaukee Counties in WI (with GOP areas not on the lakefront being given the option of seceding from those counties and remaining in their current states). I’d gladly spot the RATs 12 guaranteed EVs from the State of Chicagoland in return for our 11 safely GOP EVs from the detoxed State of Illinois, 11 safely GOP EVs from the Gary-less State of Indiana, and 9 safely GOP EVs from the Milwaukee-less State of Wisconsin. A 31-12 GOP advantage in EVs from the WI-IL-IN region is a lot better than our 21-20 EV advantage from the area in 2016 (with Trump’s narrow 0.76% victory in WI keeping us from a 30D, 11R EV result) and leagues better than the 42-0 RAT EV drubbing from 2018 (when Obama’s margin in Gary far exceeded his statewide victory margin).
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Good post. But while you’re at it how about the following:
1. Transfer western Maryland’s counties (Carroll County and counties to its west) to West Virginia.
2. Transfer Maryland’s Eastern Shore to Delaware.
3. Give DC back to Maryland as “compensation”.
Result: Maryland stays blue. DC residents get to vote and lose their annoying “Taxation without Representation” license plates. Delaware turns red.
If there was only a way to force California on Mexico since they are at least 75% Mexican anyways
My GGG-grandfather was the son-in-law of one of IL’s Founding Fathers who drew up the state constitution at Kaskaskia 200 years ago. I’m not from Ohio (or the Toledo or Cincinnati areas as you inferred), so I don’t know where you got that from. I am from Tennessee (where my aforementioned GGG-grandfather was an early settler and fought under Andrew Jackson in the Creek Campaign in Alabama before he moved to the IL Country).
In any event, I’m fairly close to key (Chicago) IL FReepers and discuss IL politics with them quite often, so I do know something about the state. Chicago & Cook County Republicanism is at its weakest point now, and continues to shrivel (and, sadly, that cancer has spread out to formerly heavily Republican suburban counties, notably Du Page & Lake).
Last I checked, there was only ONE Republican out of 50 on the Chicago Board of Alderman. The last GOP Governor to hail from Chicago was Jim Thompson, and he failed to carry Cook County in his last two terms. The last GOP States Attorney for Cook County was Jack O’Malley, who last won in 1992. He was the last Republican to get higher than 27% of the vote since. The last GOP Cook County Sheriff elected in 50 years was James O’Grady in 1986 for a single term. No Republican has gotten above 29% since (including O’Grady’s reelection campaign in 1990, when he got just 28%). Since 1954, only on one occasion, in 1966, has a Republican won the County Board Presidency, that being Dick Ogilvie, who was elected Governor 2 years later and ended up an utter fiasco in imposing an income tax, killing his political career and Presidential ambitions in one fell swoop. Not to mention the last GOP Chicago Mayor was the mobbed-up Big Bill Thompson, last elected in 1929, hardly someone to crow about.
Add to that now there are zero Republicans from Cook County in Congress, and although there are 3 GOP State Senators, they only take in a fraction of the outskirts of the county. There’s a paltry 2 GOP House members, also both of whom are on the extreme outskirts of the county overlapping into the adjacent counties. President Reagan never carried Cook County in either 1980 or 1984, and the last Republican to do so was Nixon in 1972, if only because McGovern was too extreme to stomach (and by today’s standards, he’s well to the right of Hillary & Zero).
No, indeed, the Republican strength of Cook County & Chicago you recall was weak at best and fleeting (with the last breath of strength coming to an end in the 1970s), and now is non-existent. Corruption there is an epidemic and what few Republicans remaining there often have been assimilated into the hive known as the Combine, and it’s not local to just Chicago.
You can point out where I’m wrong.
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