Schiff blasts Giuliani over canceled Ukraine trip, says campaigns shouldn't get foreign help

Fox News ^ | 5/12/19 | Andrew O'Reilly

[Libloather]

House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff, D-Calif., said Sunday that Congress should take up legislation banning political campaigns from working with foreign governments in an effort to influence U.S. elections.

**SNIP**

“Going after his son is just a method of going after someone the president believes is his most formidable opponent,” Schiff said during an appearance on ABC’s “This Week.” “So, yes, let the president go after him, but don't seek the help of a foreign government in your election.”

Giuliani had said last week that he would travel to Kiev in coming days to urge the government to investigate the origins of Special Counsel Robert Mueller's recently concluded probe into Russian interference in the 2016 U.S. election, and the involvement of former Vice President Joe Biden's son in a gas company owned by a Ukrainian oligarch.

[Libloather]

“If this isn't criminal, and Bob Mueller said he could not prove all the elements of a crime, then maybe we need to change the elements of that crime,” Schiff said. “Because we cannot make this the new norm, that if you can't win an election on your own, it's fine to seek help from a foreign power.”

Schiffty still hasn't gotten around to inserting 'Hillary and Steele' into his little equation.

[E. Pluribus Unum]

Obama colluded with Ukrainians.

Pass it on.

[Sarah Barracuda]

LOL LOL from the same party that used a phony dossier from a BRIT to try to screw over Donald Trump..from the same political party that used over 200,000 of OUR tax dollars to meddle in the Israeli election..Adam Sh*t, STFU OK

[Zuben Elgenubi]

Trump and Guiliani are trolling once again. Faux outrage over things the Dems are certainly guilty.

[ETL]

Rudy sees it too!! The still breaking Ukraine scandal centers on Democrats and PRO-RUSSIA people in the Ukraine!! ...NOT the folks being threatened by Russia there, as many if not most media, including conservative talk radio and TV, reporting might have you think or assume.

Check out the evidence (at my FR Profile page) that I've so far collected from various websites for DEMOCRAT-RUSSIA collusion. It follows the two dossier excerpts immediately below this more recent info.

https://twitter.com/RudyGiuliani/status/1126858889209831424?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.foxnews.com%2Fpolitics%2Fgiuliani-will-travel-to-ukraine-saying-countrys-probes-may-be-very-very-helpful-for-trump

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Giuliani: "The fact is, this was a massive collusion between the Democratic National Committee, officials of the Obama administration, (Hillary) Clinton people, and the Ukrainian officials, corrupt officials — who, by the way, were pro-Russian corrupt officials"

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MAY 11...

Giuliani cancels Ukraine trip, says he’d be ‘walking into a group of people that are enemies of the US’ ["pro-Russian corrupt officials"]

Charles Creitz | Fox News
May 11, 2019

Rudy Giuliani, President Trump's personal attorney, said Friday on "Fox News @ Night" that he will not be traveling to Ukraine as previously announced.

Giuliani, a former Republican mayor of New York City, said that he believed he would be "walking into a group of people that are enemies of the president, and in some cases, enemies of the United States and in one case, an already convicted person who has been found to be involved in assisting the Democrats with the 2016 investigation.

"There was a great fear that the new [Ukrainian] president would be surrounded by, literally, enemies of the president [of the United States] who were involved in that and people who are involved with other Democratic operatives," he told host Shannon Bream. ..."

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/giuliani-i-am-not-going-to-ukraine-because-id-be-walking-into-a-group-of-people-that-are-enemies-of-the-us

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From CBS News
May 10, 2019...

“In an interview on Fox News’ “The [Laura] Ingraham Angle” Thursday night [May 9, 2019], Giuliani said that as Mr. Trump’s lawyer, he has an obligation to develop “explanations of what his client was charged with.”

“The fact is, this was a massive collusion between the Democratic National Committee, officials of the Obama administration, (Hillary) Clinton people, and the Ukrainian officials, corrupt officials — who, by the way, were pro-Russian corrupt officials — to create false information about Trump..."

“This is — this is real [collusion] — not collusion conspiracy to present false information, and to leak it to the press, and to give it to the FBI,” he claimed.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/rudy-giuliani-defends-ukraine-trip-to-help-defend-trump/

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ONCE AGAIN, for those who missed it...

Giuliani: "The fact is, this was a massive collusion between the Democratic National Committee, officials of the Obama administration, (Hillary) Clinton people, and the Ukrainian officials, corrupt officials — who, by the way, were pro-Russian corrupt officials"

[Savage Beast]

The Democrats will snipe at anything. It’s part of their histrionics, hysterics, obfuscation, distractions—a strategy to convince as many gullible people as possible to believe their propaganda and vote for Democrats.

[ETL]

Obama colluded with Ukrainians. Pass it on.

Obama-Hillary-Biden colluded with PRO-RUSSIA Ukrainians. Pass it on.

[Eddie01]

Schiff can’t “blast” anybody.

He might be able to softly slap at them.

“You brute!, you brute!, you brute!

[Skywise]

Oh that’s rich coming from him - especially with his party doing it RIGHT NOW.

Or does he think China’s sudden turn about on trade negotiations had nothing to do with Biden?

Gonna investigate your own party pal? Didn’t think so.

[ETL]

AG Bill Barr: 'I'm Concerned' the Steele Dossier Was Part of Russia's Disinformation Campaign

PJMedia.com ^ | May 1, 2019 | Tyler O'Neil

On Wednesday, [May 1, 2019] Attorney General William Barr testified that he is “concerned” about the Trump-Russia dossier compiled by former British spy Christopher Steele and paid for by the Democratic National Committee and the Hillary Clinton campaign.

Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas) asked Barr whether or not the Department of Justice (DOJ) could confirm that the Steele dossier was not part of the disinformation campaign Russia used to interfere in the 2016 presidential election.

“How do we know that the Steele dossier is not itself evidence of the Russian disinformation campaign, knowing what we know now that basically the allegations made therein were second-hand, hearsay, or unverified,” Cornyn stated, referring to key claims in the dossier that the report from Special Counsel Robert Mueller disproved, such as the claim that Trump lawyer Michael Cohen traveled to Prague.

“Can you state with confidence that the Steele dossier was not part of the Russian disinformation campaign?” Cornyn asked.

“No, I can’t state that with confidence and that is one of the areas that I’m reviewing,” Barr replied. “I’m concerned about it and I don’t think it’s entirely speculative.”

If Russia had a hand in the Steele dossier, that would imply that Hillary Clinton’s campaign and the DNC either worked with Russians or were duped by the Russians in their disinformation campaigns.

It would mean that the real “collusion” with Russia may have been on the Clinton side, rather than the Trump side.

(Excerpt) Read more at pjmedia.com ...

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July 2017...

[Dossier] Democrats intentionally used disinformation from Russia to attack Trump, campaign aides

By Rowan Scarborough
The Washington Times
July 11, 2017

While the mainstream news media hunts for evidence of Trump-Russia collusion, the public record shows that Democrats have willfully used Moscow disinformation to influence the presidential election against Donald Trump and attack his administration.

The disinformation came in the form of a Russian-fed dossier written by former British intelligence agent Christopher Steele. It contains a series of unverified criminal charges against Mr. Trump’s campaign aides, such as coordinating Moscow’s hacking of Democratic Party computers.

Some Democrats have widely circulated the discredited information.

Mr. Steele was paid by the Democrat-funded opposition research firm Fusion GPS with money from a Hillary Clinton backer.

Fusion GPS distributed the dossier among Democrats and journalists. The information fell into the hands of the FBI, which used it in part to investigate Mr. Trump’s campaign aides.

Mr. Steele makes clear that his unproven charges came almost exclusively from sources linked to the Kremlin and Russian President Vladimir Putin. He identified his sources as “a senior Russian Foreign Ministry figure,” a former “top level Russian intelligence officer active inside the Kremlin,” a “senior Kremlin official” and a “senior Russian government official.”

The same Democrats who have condemned Russia’s election interference via plying fake news and hacking email servers have quoted freely from the Steele anti-Trump memos derived from creatures of the Kremlin.

In other words, there is public evidence of significant, indirect collusion between Democrats and Russian disinformation...”

Continued at source...

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jul/11/democrats-spread-false-russian-information-on-trum/

Or,

https://web.archive.org/web/20170902055857/http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jul/11/democrats-spread-false-russian-information-on-trum/

[ETL]

Clinton-Biden-Obama Ukraine collusion/corruption revolves around PRO-RUSSIA people in Ukraine

(my title for the following compilation)

various sources (links provided) | 2016 thru present (May 2019) | various authors

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IMPORTANT NOTE: The Clinton-Obama-Biden-Ukraine collusion/corruption scandal seems to revolve around PRO-RUSSIA people in the Ukraine. From what I've seen and heard, on Sean Hannity's radio and television shows, neither he nor John Solomon, who have both otherwise done outstanding work on this story, have pointed out to their viewers/listeners this key bit of information -ETL
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April 26, 2019...

Trump: Clinton-Ukraine collusion allegations 'big' and 'incredible,' will be reviewed...

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-barr-will-look-at-incredible-possibility-of-ukraine-clinton-collusion
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[RT (Russia Today) is a Russia state-owned and controlled propaganda media outlet -ETL]

From The Daily Caller, May 5, 2019

* Hunter Biden was appointed to the board of directors of a Ukranian company [Burisma] as part of an effort to recruit well-connected Americans while the company was under investigation, according to The New York Times.

* Then-Vice President Joe Biden played a role in pressuring Ukraine to oust the country’s top prosecutor, Viktor Shokin, who was investigating the company, Burisma.

* Shokin’s successor initially ended the investigation into Burisma, but decided in March 2019 to reopen it.

https://dailycaller.com/2019/05/05/biden-ukraine-burisma-trump/

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From 2014...

The Federalist
May 13, 2014
Mollie Hemingway

"In late April, around the time the vice president made an official trip to Ukraine, Burisma allegedly appointed Devon Archer, one of Hunter Biden’s business partners, to its board as well.

Here’s a brief write-up on the story from the Moscow Times, an English-language news service based in Russia.

These dual announcements raise more questions than they answer. The prominence of the individuals involved — Hunter Biden is the vice president’s son, while Devon Archer was a major bundler for John Kerry and also his stepson’s college roommate

https://thefederalist.com/2014/05/13/9-questions-to-ask-about-bidens-work-with-a-gas-company-in-ukraine/

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Mykola Zlochevsky

Same article, Daily Caller, May 5, 2019

“Burisma is a natural gas exploration and production company owned by Mykola Zlochevsky, a cabinet member of former Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovich. [Viktor Yanukovich was Putin’s stooge in the Ukraine -ETL].

Yanukovich was removed from his position in February 2014.

He currently lives in exile in Russia and is wanted by Ukraine for high treason.

Zlochevsky later fled the country in late-2014 as Ukrainian prosecutors launched investigations into his time in public office as well as his private businesses.”

https://dailycaller.com/2019/05/05/biden-ukraine-burisma-trump/

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Viktor Yanukovych (Party of Regions), Putin's stooge in the Ukraine -ETL]

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Viktor Yanukovych vs Viktor Yushchenko

In 2004, as President Kuchma's term came to an end, [Viktor] Yushchenko announced his candidacy for president as an independent.

His major rival was Prime Minister Viktor Yanukovych. ..."

The campaign was often bitter and violent.

Yushchenko became seriously ill in early September 2004.

He was flown to Vienna’s Rudolfinerhaus clinic for treatment and diagnosed with acute pancreatitis, accompanied by interstitial edematous changes, due to a serious viral infection and chemical substances that are not normally found in food products.

Yushchenko claimed that he had been poisoned by government agents.

After the illness, his face was greatly disfigured: jaundiced, bloated, and pockmarked.

British toxicologist Professor John Henry of St Mary’s Hospital in London declared the changes in Yushchenko’s face were due to chloracne, which results from dioxin poisoning.[17]

Dutch toxicologist Bram Brouwer also stated his changes in appearance were the result of chloracne, and found dioxin levels in Yushchenko’s blood 6,000 times above normal.[18]

On December 11, Dr. Michael Zimpfer of the Rudolfinerhaus clinic declared that Yushchenko had ingested TCDD dioxin and had 1,000 times the usual concentration in his body.[19]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Yushchenko#TCDD_poisoning

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Yushchenko, hero of Ukraine's Orange Revolution warns Europe that Putin won't stop at Crimea

by Matthew Schofield - McClatchy Foreign Staff
March 27, 2014

Viktor Yushchenko

Many Ukrainians believe you need look no further than the face of Viktor Yushchenko to understand Russia's aggression against Ukraine.

Once smooth and ruggedly handsome, it still bears the scars from an assassination attempt when someone slipped dioxin into Yushchenko's food. ..."

Read more here:
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/world/article24765781.html#storylink=cpy

[SunkenCiv]

Schiff-for-brains is and always has been unfit for office.

• Rapper Indicted For Funneling MILLIONS of Dollars in Foreign Money to Obama's 2012 Presidential

[cld51860]

To frame a duly elected president. And nobody is in jail yet.

[hardspunned]

https://youtu.be/FUwE_Qg1bqg

[proust]

Thanks Rudy for providing low hanging fruit.

[ETL]

Donald Trump: 'Putin has eaten Obama's lunch, therefore our lunch, for a long period of time'

Mar 13, 2014
Eun Kyung Kim: TODAY SHOW (NBC)

Donald Trump slammed President Obama Thursday on TODAY for failing to take a stronger line against President Vladimir Putin in dealing with Ukraine, saying he feared Obama would now make up for lost time with imprudent moves to "show his manhood."

The real estate mogul and reality-TV star, who has criticized Putin for sending military troops into Crimea, said Obama must now take fierce steps to prevent the situation from escalating further.

"We should definitely do sanctions and we have to show some strengths. I mean, Putin has eaten Obama's lunch, therefore our lunch, for a long period of time," Trump said. ..."

http://www.today.com/news/donald-trump-putin-has-eaten-obamas-lunch-ukraine-2D79372098
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Here’s the interview w/ Matt Lauer on YouTube...

Donald Trump (2014): ‘Vladimir Putin Has Eaten Obama’s Lunch’:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzURUENf1ns
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Vice President Pence on Russia:

(from the VP debate on Oct 5, 2016)

“What we’re dealing with is the — you know, there’s an old proverb that says the Russian bear never dies, it just hibernates.

And the truth of the matter is, the weak and feckless foreign policy of Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama has awakened an aggression in Russia that first appeared a few years ago with their move in Georgia, now their move into Crimea, now their move into the wider Middle East.

[madison10]

He is SO full of himself.

[chief lee runamok]

Would you buy a used car from this salesman?

[SaxxonWoods]

Luckily all his caterwauling is meaningless. Once you get past the Dem base, which doesn’t matter, everyone else is bored and/or annoyed by his crud.

[Kickass Conservative]

Shitz can’t take a joke.