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Pompeo abruptly cancels trip to Germany
CNN ^ | May 7 | Devan Cole and Nicole Gaouette

Posted on 05/07/2019 7:46:57 AM PDT by PghBaldy

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To: GOPJ

Instant coalition would take out Iranian leadership. Saudi, Iraq, UAE, Kuwait, and Qatar depend on that traffic, and Japan, Korea, Singapore and China need the oil through there. With the US Fifth Fleet nearby, nobody’s going to bend over for the mullahs.

It would not be easy to block a two-mile wide shipping lane for very long. The first attacks on ships there would be over in a couple hours.


41 posted on 05/07/2019 10:20:55 AM PDT by jjotto (Next week, BOOM!, for sure!)
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To: GOPJ

“What would happen if Iran sunk a dozen ships in the Strait of Hormuz?”

That is a scenario that the US military has been deliberately planning for, for decades.

“What would happen?”

I would anticipate an ass-kicking of some type.

There are likely response options of various sizes. Their regular Military (Navy and Air Force) could lose some serious capability in a large scale response. Revolutionary Guards anti-ship missiles would likely be targeted, as well as their mine laying capability - whatever was used to sink ships would likely be taken away. It would be a great excuse to blow up Bandar Abbas, where the bulk of their container traffic passes, which would choke their economy significantly.

If we were to go high intensity with Iran, our troops on the ground in Iraq and Syria would need to button up real tight, because Iran has a lot of surrogates there. They might activate some sleeper terrorist cells in the West. If they went too far, the regime would be decapitated.

I doubt they would get around to sinking their twelfth ship to make a dozen, before they found themselves with their hands full of kinetic response.


42 posted on 05/07/2019 10:25:33 AM PDT by BeauBo
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To: jjotto
...two-mile wide shipping lane

You've got your facts right... so, how long would it take to unblock a two mile wide shipping lane if Iran intentional sunk 30 or 40 ships there?

43 posted on 05/07/2019 10:26:49 AM PDT by GOPJ ("Elites reflexively exempt themselves from the ravages of their own policies." - nathanbedford)
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To: GOPJ

The Straights can’t be physically blocked, like you might do by sinking a ship in the locks of the Panama Canal.

The risk of being sunk is what would stop the traffic, either by mines, or by active fires, like ship to ship attacks, anti-ship missiles or artillery from shore, or air attacks.


44 posted on 05/07/2019 10:35:57 AM PDT by BeauBo
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To: GOPJ

Sinking 30-40 ships there would take a few days. Iran would only have a few hours.


45 posted on 05/07/2019 10:36:14 AM PDT by jjotto (Next week, BOOM!, for sure!)
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To: Bringbackthedraft

Interesting surmise. But the hot spot is Persia right now. China may join the fray later but the tariffs are not going to start a world war.


46 posted on 05/07/2019 10:39:57 AM PDT by firebrand
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To: Oldeconomybuyer; livius

Old freepers rule.


47 posted on 05/07/2019 10:41:38 AM PDT by firebrand
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To: GOPJ
The shipping lane inside Omani water might be two miles wide, but the Straight itself is more like 30-50 miles wide.

The port at Bandar Abbas is vital to Iran's Navy and their commerce. If they blockade other people's shipping, they won't be getting their's either. It is like strapping on a suicide vest.

48 posted on 05/07/2019 10:46:44 AM PDT by BeauBo
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To: BeauBo

21 in the CNN story, but they lie of course.


49 posted on 05/07/2019 10:57:09 AM PDT by firebrand
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To: EvilCapitalist

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZwDL3-Ze4w


50 posted on 05/07/2019 11:08:39 AM PDT by PLMerite ("They say that we were Cold Warriors. Yes, and a bloody good show, too." - Robert Conquest)
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To: VietVet876

Correct, but they could play “Roam”.


51 posted on 05/07/2019 11:10:15 AM PDT by Spacetrucker (George Washington didn't use his freedom of speech to defeat the British - HE SHOT THEM .. WITH GUNS)
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To: GOPJ

What would happen if Iran sunk the Lincoln? It’s a possibility.


52 posted on 05/07/2019 11:24:49 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (Plans are worthless, but planning is everything. - Dwight Eisenhower, 1957)
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To: Future Snake Eater

“What would happen if Iran sunk the Lincoln?”

Regime change.


53 posted on 05/07/2019 11:27:07 AM PDT by BeauBo
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To: BeauBo

Probably something like that. It certainly wouldn’t go well for Iran afterwards.


54 posted on 05/07/2019 11:28:00 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (Plans are worthless, but planning is everything. - Dwight Eisenhower, 1957)
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To: PghBaldy; RushIsMyTeddyBear; metmom; CynicalBear; SkyPilot; tuffydoodle; tang-soo; righttackle44; ..

[ U.S. officials say the bomber task force being sent the Middle East will likely include four B-52 bombers. ]

Wow, say I must. Interesting, that is, very.


55 posted on 05/07/2019 11:44:34 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: LukeL

[Sort of sounds like the mistake I made in having Taco Bell over Panda Express.]

IIRC my last time at Panda Express, an entree seemed like $8 or so while I can still get my $5 box at Taco Bell. With drink!


56 posted on 05/07/2019 11:47:17 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: Future Snake Eater

[What would happen if Iran sunk the Lincoln? It’s a possibility.]

Tehran and Bandar Abbas (perhaps more) will be turned into a flat glass disc, rather quickly.

That would be my guess.


57 posted on 05/07/2019 11:50:39 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: Spacetrucker; All

Media reporting on Twitter that Pompeo is now in Baghdad, unannounced.


58 posted on 05/07/2019 12:13:11 PM PDT by tcrlaf (They told me it could never happen in America. And then it did....ew)
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To: butlerweave
Merkel smells like cabbage

Is that what smells


59 posted on 05/07/2019 12:42:05 PM PDT by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: PghBaldy

Wednesday (8 May) is the one year anniversary of the US withdrawal. Iran is saying it will resume some activities.

Maybe that negates the whole deal, and removes their protection from Military action?


60 posted on 05/07/2019 12:56:27 PM PDT by BeauBo
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