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20-year-old says Uber driver left her on side of road when he found out she was getting abortion
Yahoo Lifestyle ^ | April 19, 2019 | Kerry Justich

Posted on 04/19/2019 4:16:50 PM PDT by EveningStar

A 20-year-old college student’s Reddit post about “the worst, most backwards day” of her life is gaining traction online after she recounted how she was dropped on the side of the road by an Uber driver who disagreed with her decision to get an abortion

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: abortion; accessory; babykilling; infanticide; moralabsolutes; uber; waaaaa
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To: TChad
Oh, I see what you are saying. Because he agreed to drive her back instead of driving her to her appointment, he didn't really "abandon" her. He drove away 15 minutes before a cab arrived for her, so he did not make sure she had transportation before leaving her. Her cab might never have arrived. Yet by your standards his actions should not be described as abandonment.

Exactly. He would not leave until dismissed, for he only left after "Firmly, I said no thank you." He rejected the ride he offered, and he had waited 15 minute and had she asked him to stay he would have waited even longer, and neither was she alone. That is simply not abandonment. So tell me why you are trying so hard to demonize this man?

What do you think of evangelical Christians who rejected rejected for graciously offering gospel tracts, while also showing humanitarian concern, but who refuse to be complicit in clearly facilitating immorality?

121 posted on 04/19/2019 8:09:53 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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To: TChad
He drove away 15 minutes before a cab arrived for her, so he did not make sure she had transportation before leaving her. Her cab might never have arrived. Yet by your standards his actions should not be described as abandonment.

Dude, cabs drive many people to locations in which they have to find their own way back, and I have myself, and which is not abandonment. She was not left in the middle of a desert, but one with at least two business and she has phone service, with which she could have called the police of an ambulance, etc.

This location was not her choice, but neither would a police station which is where she really belonged for attempted murder. He the hero, and you are the enemy of such.

122 posted on 04/19/2019 8:18:25 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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To: TChad
Doing things the driver’s way failed to save the fetus. I don’t see anything to celebrate about that failure.

Are you serious? So a hero is only someone who succeeds? And you think that driving her to the abortion clinic would be right, even if all the way trying to persuade her not to go thru with it?

And tell me if you think that Jack Phillips was also wrong for refusing to be complicit in celebrating an unlawful wedding?

123 posted on 04/19/2019 8:23:47 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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To: dp0622

If I may No He would not take here there, if you read in scripture if he had done so he would be a party to the murder of the child.
One who leads another astray by their words or actions is complicit in that which happens.


124 posted on 04/19/2019 8:37:31 PM PDT by 100American (Knowledge is knowing how, Wisdom is knowing when)
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To: 100American

If thou forbear to deliver them that are drawn unto death, and those that are ready to be slain; If thou sayest, Behold, we knew it not; doth not he that pondereth the heart consider it? and he that keepeth thy soul, doth not he know it? and shall not he render to every man according to his works? (Proverbs 24:11-12)


125 posted on 04/19/2019 8:47:38 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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To: daniel1212
He would not leave until dismissed, for he only left after "Firmly, I said no thank you."

That is not being "dismissed," she just refused his offer of a ride to somewhere she did not want to go.

Even if she specifically ordered him to leave, it would not matter. Since the cab might not arrive, he was CLEARLY morally obligated to wait until it did. He failed to do so.

Please provide me with the names and criminal records of the other people at that shop, the people you seem to trust to take good care of the mother. Oh, that's right, you have no idea who else was there, or whether the mother was actually safe. Neither did the driver, and neither did the mother.

He abandoned her. If you don't like that word, say "He left her somewhere that he did not know was safe, without confirming that she would find safe transportation to her chosen destination."

As for demonizing the driver, in fact I have sympathy for him. I can easily understand his disgust. I just think he chose the wrong things to do.

126 posted on 04/19/2019 8:52:30 PM PDT by TChad
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To: EveningStar

I would have done the same thing.


127 posted on 04/19/2019 9:25:31 PM PDT by murron
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To: dp0622

I read the whole article dp, on this one you are wrong.
The driver acted with honor and kindness as far as he could go.


128 posted on 04/19/2019 10:04:49 PM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: Larry Lucido

Oh man you get kicked out for that!!!


129 posted on 04/19/2019 10:20:48 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: TChad

Twist the words however you want, it’s not going to make the facts go away.
The driver acted within his conscience and with honor towards some one with whom he disagreed.
All of your “WHAT IF’S, COULD HAVE’S, MIGHT HAVE’S” are nothing but BS.
The driver fulfilled his MORAL OBLIGATION to this woman by explaining to her the mistake she was making and the grief she would have to live with the rest of her life.
Your insinuation that all the people at the station and the shop where the driver dropped her off could be psychopathic serial killers shows more about your state of mind than anything else.
When I offer something to another person, whether a ride or a drink, and they tell me in no uncertain terms “NO THANKS”, I consider myself to have been refused or “DISMISSED”.
He did not “ABANDON” her, he let her off in what most people would consider a safe location and was even enough of a gentleman to wait while she completed her phone calls.

Just pull your head out of your ass, because it must be hard to breath up there.


130 posted on 04/19/2019 10:28:38 PM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: TChad
If you want to change someone's mind, you start by forming a personal connection and finding things to agree about, not by behaving like an uncaring jerk.

I don't think her mind was changeable at that point. AFA the 'personal connection' being formed, I highly doubt that as well. I've met people like that. Complete narcissists.

131 posted on 04/20/2019 3:05:29 AM PDT by sauropod (Yield to sin, and experience chastening and sorrow; yield to God, and experience joy and blessing.)
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To: EveningStar

That is one I never encountered. Conversation sometimes revealed political differences with riders during my 4 months of Uber driving, but nothing ever upset the trip.


132 posted on 04/20/2019 3:42:10 AM PDT by jimfree (My18 y/o granddaughter continues to have more quality exec experience than an 8 year Obama.)
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To: EveningStar

why is she discussing her business with strangers??


133 posted on 04/20/2019 3:50:23 AM PDT by ronniesgal (so I wonder what his FR handle is????)
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To: TChad
This is not a "protest" on his part. It is a refusal to be an accomplice to her violent, life-destroying plan.

It was not possible for him to stop the abortion, but it was possible for him to remove himself from cooperating as accessory to the deed.

134 posted on 04/20/2019 5:36:36 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (If you don't read the newspaper, you're uninformed. If you read it, you're mis-informed.- Mark Twain)
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To: King Moonracer
Oh. Better to be an accessory to TWO killings, then?

Depraved indifference to the life of the woman AND the baby. That's just the mentality which enables abortion to begin with.

135 posted on 04/20/2019 5:39:25 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Abortion does not call into question the unborn baby's humanity, but our own.)
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To: TChad
That is not being "dismissed," she just refused his offer of a ride to somewhere she did not want to go. That is not being "dismissed," she just refused his offer of a ride to somewhere she did not want to go. Even if she specifically ordered him to leave, it would not matter. Since the cab might not arrive, he was CLEARLY morally obligated to wait until it did. He failed to do so. Please provide me with the names and criminal records of the other people at that shop, the people you seem to trust to take good care of the mother. Oh, that's right, you have no idea who else was there, or whether the mother was actually safe. Neither did the driver, and neither did the mother.

What kind of snowflake liberal contrivance is this? Names and criminal records? Are you serious? The mother and her infant was actually safer there than an abortion clinic? Did she ask him to wait? No. Did she at all indicate she wanted him to wait no longer, versus the opposite by firmly saying "No" to his offer to return? No. Would his waiting cause her more discomfort? Evidently yes (she expressed that she felt unsafe with him). In other words, get lost.

Do drivers usually leave people at places that they do not know the names and criminal records of the people there, or whether for the passenger for sure would be safe? Yes. Did the women want a ride to a very dangerous place? Yes! Did the driver attempt to prevent that and bring her to her safe home (though you never know. He did not know the names and criminal records of the people there either).

Did she have access to obtain help including the police? Yes. Was she even a mother in the sense of giving birth? No. Was she instead an anti-mother planning to commit murderer? Yes. So here you are making it look like the driver endangered her by doing what people do all the time, leaving passengers at places they they do not know or have names and criminal records of. Yet she actually wanted to go to a very dangerous place, at least as concerns her own "passenger" in her "vehicle," who she had forcibly removed.

So just who is the criminal here who was neglectful of human life and who was the one who acted heroically by trying to persuade the murderer not to go thru with her plans, and then finally refusing to be complicit in the murder, risking at least his job in so doing, but leaving her at a place of business and phone service, yet still waiting 15 minutes till effectively being told to leave?

As for demonizing the driver, in fact I have sympathy for him. I can easily understand his disgust. So you can easily "understand" his disgust yet all you can do is find fault with the driver who compassionately sought to prevent murder and her from doing what she would regret. Do you really believe the women was the criminal in planning to commit murder, with herself being the dangerous person going to a dangerous place at least as regards her baby?

I just think he chose the wrong things to do.

"Wrong things?" What else who you want to indict him for besides not waiting for this dangerous criminal to get a ride to a place of murder? Do you even believe abortion is murder, and thus that this women was intent on committing it, despite the attempts by the driver to prevent it, and to get her safely home?

Its time for you to answer some questions Mr. Prosecutor of good deeds.

136 posted on 04/20/2019 5:41:51 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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To: 5th MEB
All of your “WHAT IF’S, COULD HAVE’S, MIGHT HAVE’S” are nothing but BS. The driver fulfilled his MORAL OBLIGATION to this woman by explaining to her the mistake she was making and the grief she would have to live with the rest of her life. Your insinuation that all the people at the station and the shop where the driver dropped her off could be psychopathic serial killers shows more about your state of mind than anything else.

I suspect we may be dealing with a liberal who like so many college students see such heroes as this Uber driver as dangerous. Whom AOC would agree with, and when that happens...

137 posted on 04/20/2019 5:45:14 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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To: TChad; daniel1212
TChad, you are making up defamatory details against the driver. After 10 minute of waiting for her when she was making her phone calls, he again offered her a ride back and was again refused with (she reports) a "firm thank you."

She's shown herself to be not only ungrateful, but vindictive. Any further action from him, and possibly she'd be charging him with stalking or abduction.

138 posted on 04/20/2019 5:47:03 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Abortion does not call into question the unborn baby's humanity, but our own.)
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To: TChad

He may not have saved the baby’s life but when he faces Jesus he will be able to say he took a stand for what is right. He did not compromise his conscience or his faith. The baby (your use of the word fetus is very telling) was going to be murdered regardless but the driver refused to participate in the murder. Good for him and may God bless him


139 posted on 04/20/2019 5:56:54 AM PDT by Mom MD
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To: daniel1212

Note his continued use of the word fetus. It speaks volumes


140 posted on 04/20/2019 6:02:13 AM PDT by Mom MD
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