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The Second Amendment doesn't say that gun ownership has to be free of charge (barf alert)
Chicago Tribune ^ | 16 apr 2019 | Dahleen Glanton

Posted on 04/16/2019 5:45:09 AM PDT by rellimpank

It’s just a fact of life that handguns are now permanent legal fixtures in the American landscape. We have to live with that.

But the freedom to own a firearm doesn’t mean it has to be free of charge. It doesn’t mean that owners can’t be a tiny bit inconvenienced. And someone’s right to own a gun certainly does not trump the safety rights of the rest of us.

This is what the pro-gun people don’t seem to understand.

Gun rights advocates in Illinois are in an uproar over legislation that is being debated in the General Assembly. The bill simply would make it harder for people who aren’t supposed to have guns to legally obtain them.

The amendment to House Bill 96, sponsored by Rep. Kathleen Willis, is one of several bills introduced in the aftermath of a multiple shooting at a manufacturing warehouse in Aurora in February.

Of course, we don’t know if stricter state laws could have stopped 45-year-old Gary Martin from shooting five co-workers to death, in addition to injuring five police officers, after learning he was to be terminated. But many Illinois residents are demanding that our lawmakers at least give it a try.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Illinois
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To: rellimpank

Dear Dahleen:

Then Freedom of the Press did not mean free of charge. You have to pay the down -state Republicans to write your little drivel. The fee can only be paid after it has been submitted, reviewed and approved.

You have a right to vote, the Poll tax is just to pay for the process. In your case, it is 10k.

You have a right to a fair trial. We will let you know the fee for that after we have your banking records.

Now, do you see what a fraud your statement is in your article? How it is meant to mislead the weak minded?

Puppies on the block. There have got to be some puppies on your block. That is what you should write about. It suits you.


41 posted on 04/16/2019 6:57:06 AM PDT by KC Burke (If all the world is a stage, I would like to request my lighting be adjusted.)
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To: grobdriver
The bill simply would make it harder for people who aren’t supposed to have guns to legally obtain them.

WTF!!!? Wait a minute! If they aren't supposed to have them (as in illegal), we need a law to make it harder for them to get them "LEGALLY"? Does this A$$hat exist on a diet of stupid pills?

Did he mean he wants a law to make it MORE illegal? Maybe we should just pass a law that makes the punishment harsher for killing the same person more than once.

42 posted on 04/16/2019 6:57:06 AM PDT by Tenacious 1
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To: rellimpank

It’s burdensome to ask voters to prove their citizenship, but it’s okay to impose “a little inconvenience” and fees on people wanting to exercise their 2nd Amendment rights.

Got it.

How about we license journalists?


43 posted on 04/16/2019 6:57:37 AM PDT by IronJack
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To: rellimpank
Same author, different "right":

DAHLEEN GLANTON

Bruce Rauner was courageous — and right — when he signed the Illinois abortion bill

Regardless of where you stand on the issue of abortion rights, you must admit that Gov. Bruce Rauner was courageous. In signing the controversial bill Thursday expanding taxpayer-subsidized abortions for low-income women, the moderate Republican governor angered conservatives across the state —all...

https://www.chicagotribune.com/opinion/chi-dahleen-glanton-staff.html?page=24&device=mobile&deployment=overlay&

If the left didn't have double standards, they wouldn't have any standards at all.

44 posted on 04/16/2019 6:58:32 AM PDT by edwinland
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To: DesertRhino
You have to pay to exercise free speech? You have to pay a surcharge if you don’t want soldiers quartered in your house? You have to pay extra for a speedy trial?

If you have to pay a cop to not look at your persons, houses, papers, and effects, that's called a shakedown.

-PJ

45 posted on 04/16/2019 7:03:23 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (The 1st Amendment gives the People the right to a free press, not CNN the right to the 1st question.)
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To: rellimpank

She wants the state government to impose more checks, when the government failed in its check on this one guy when he got a FOID card.

This failure is besides the point that virtually none of the people that commit murder with guns in Chicago have a FOID, although many of them already have their fingerprints on file.


46 posted on 04/16/2019 7:05:09 AM PDT by VanShuyten ("...that all the donkeys were dead. I know nothing as to the fate of the less valuable animals.")
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To: Tucker39

I also wonder if the army back in 1776 asked volunteers if they had criminal records. Pretty damn sure they didn’t.


47 posted on 04/16/2019 7:07:41 AM PDT by New Jersey Realist ( (Be Nice To Your Kids. They Will Pick Out Your Nursing Home))
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To: rellimpank

It’s just a fact of life that handguns are now permanent legal fixtures in the American landscape.

And has been for well over a hundred years. Same for automobiles which kill even more.


48 posted on 04/16/2019 7:09:26 AM PDT by GoldenPup
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To: DesertRhino

And someone’s right to own a gun certainly does not trump the safety rights of the rest of us”

That’s precisely what it does

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Thank you


49 posted on 04/16/2019 7:14:01 AM PDT by bramps (It's the Islam, stupid!)
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To: rellimpank

Tribune is puppy potty training paper.


50 posted on 04/16/2019 7:39:58 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneow)
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To: DesertRhino

Well, it would, if “safety” was a right to begin with.


51 posted on 04/16/2019 7:41:30 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: jazminerose
If 2A is not absolute, neither is 1A.

Let them find out if the pen is mightier than the deplored.

52 posted on 04/16/2019 7:54:19 AM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: rellimpank

Hey Dahleen! MOLON LABE, punk.


53 posted on 04/16/2019 7:56:05 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: rellimpank
And someone’s right to own a gun certainly does not trump the safety rights of the rest of us.

This is what the pro-gun people don’t seem to understand.


No, you don't understand the nature of our rights. They are INDIVIDUAL rights, not collective rights.

Let's go look at the Constitution. I'll show you where it says, "shall not be infringed," and you can show me that right to safety clause you're talking about.
54 posted on 04/16/2019 8:03:02 AM PDT by itzmygun (Elitism + hatred of mankind = Today's Liberalism)
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To: BitWielder1

“The issue is to use every single incident as an excuse to take guns away from law abiding folks.”

The model for this is the supposed opioid crisis. They are using the opioid crisis to force doctors into denying prescriptions to law abiding citizens who need the medication to live a productive life.

This is soviet tactics 101. Take something that can parallel the issue you want to own, try it out, make corrections and once it works, apply it to what you really want to do. Call it continual service improvement.


55 posted on 04/16/2019 8:12:09 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Trump is the best project/program/portfolio manager in the world!!!!)
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To: a fool in paradise

It says nothing about free of charge, it says the right for the people
to keep and bare arms shall not be infringed which seems to be what you
are advocating.

There are always problems in a free country unless you compare it with one
that is not free, infringing on people’s rights to keep and bare arms is not
no answer.


56 posted on 04/16/2019 8:14:08 AM PDT by ravenwolf (Small towns are great, if you forget what you were doing don't worry every one else knows.)
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To: rellimpank

Somes one’s right to own a gun certainly does not
Trump the safety of others.
,___&_&&&_____&&&_____o
I disagree, I do not carry a gun myself so if I
am out in the boondocks I feel much better if some one
else out there has one even if they are strangers.


57 posted on 04/16/2019 8:26:13 AM PDT by ravenwolf (Small towns are great, if you forget what you were doing don't worry every one else knows.)
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To: rellimpank

It doesn’t mean that owners can’t be a tiny bit inconvenienced.

One person’s “inconvenienced” is another person’s
“INfringed”.

Also if ownership of a firearm is relative to safety,
who is she to deny others that right.


58 posted on 04/16/2019 8:31:24 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: All

Taxing gun ownership is infringement on the poor.


60 posted on 04/16/2019 8:38:08 AM PDT by Retvet (Retvet)
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