Posted on 04/11/2019 6:28:51 AM PDT by Enlightened1
Barr replied: “Oh yes, and I’m gonna get all the pricks that did it.”
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Its payback time bitches! LOL
Trump had to know ...... b/c knowing allowed Trump to successfully sidetrack the cabal."
Remember that blurb about Mike Rogers meeting with Trump in November 2016 right after the election?
Does Trump know that Barry Soetoro was never eligible to be President?
That BOTH parties colluded to violate the Constitution?
The Crawler on CNN says ..Barr ( without any proof) says spying took place.
I’m growing more certain by the day that Trump knew about they spying BEFORE the election in 2016.
roughlyexplained.com
To some of President Donald Trumps defenders, Admiral Mike Rogers, the recently retired NSA Director, is poised to blow the whistle on a purported deep state conspiracy against Mr. Trump. Mr. Rogers elevation as a folk hero among the pro-Trump conspiracy community has its roots in a visit he made to Trump Tower in November 2016, as then President-elect Trump was preparing to take office. According to a Washington Post report, the incident rankled his superiors in the Obama Administration, several of whom were already seeking his removal as NSA Director.
In a move apparently unprecedented for a military officer, Rogers, without notifying superiors, traveled to New York to meet with Trump on Thursday at Trump Tower, the Post reported.That caused consternation at senior levels of the administration, according to the officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss internal personnel matters.
Just a month earlier, Defense Secretary Ashton B. Carter and Director of National Intelligence James R. Clapper Jr., had recommended to President Barack Obama that Mr. Rogers be relieved of his post. Mr. Carter, according to the report was frustrated with Admiral Rogers performance leading the agency, while Mr. Clapper sought to restructure the NSA under civilian leadership. Ultimately, Mr. Obama elected to keep Mr. Rogers in his post. Still, his rocky relationship with Mr. Carter and especially Mr. Clapper are a mark of credibility with those who believe Mr. Trump is the victim of a deep state plot.
At the time, Mr. Rogers was being considered by President-elect Trump to replace Mr. Clapper as director of national intelligence, which seems a plausible-enough reason to call on Mr. Trump without telling his bosses in the outgoing administration. But, some of Mr. Trumps defenders see a more exotic explanation. They believe that Mr. Rogers was there to warn Mr. Trump that Mr. Obama and his lieutenants were spying on him a claim that every U.S. intelligence official, including Mr. Rogers, has refuted.
In Congressional testimony last spring, Mr. Rogers disputed Mr. Trumps claim that Mr. Obama ordered his wires tapped in Trump Tower.
I have seen nothing on the NSA side that we have engaged in such activity, nor that anyone ever asked us to engage in such activity, Mr. Rogers told the House Intelligence Committee.
This is not the only occasion in which Mr. Rogers has refuted theories popular among Mr. Trumps defenders. At that same hearing, Mr. Rogers also shot down a related theory floated by a Fox News personality and subsequently echoed by White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer, that Mr. Obama had enlisted GCHQ, Britains equivalent to the NSA, to spy on the Trumps campaign. When asked by Rep. Adam Schiff, the committees ranking democrat if he made such a request to his British counterparts, Mr. Rogers shot back, No sir. Nor would I. That would be expressly against the construct of the Five Eyes agreement that has been in place for decades.
Mr. Rogers also reportedly refused a request from Mr. Trump, made soon after James Comey, the former FBI director confirmed that the Bureau was investigating potential ties between Mr. Trumps campaign and Russias efforts to meddle in the 2016 election, to publicly state that there was no evidence of collusion. When asked about this in a Senate Intelligence Committee hearing last year, Rogers sidestepped the question.
In the three-plus years that I have been the director of the National Security Agency, to the best of my recollection, I have never been directed to do anything I believe to be illegal, immoral, unethical or inappropriate, and to the best of my recollection during that same period of service I do not recall ever feeling pressured to do so, Rogers said during the June 2017 public hearing.
When pressed, by Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) whether he had ever been asked by the president or the White House to influence an ongoing investigation, Mr. Rogers refused to deny it. Im not going to discuss the specifics of discussions with the president of the United States, Rogers said.
But, several weeks later, Mr. Rogers reportedly told the Committee in a closed-door session that Mr. Trump had indeed urged him to publicly say that there was no collusion between his campaign and Russia. While Mr. Rogers thought the interaction odd enough that Richard Leggett, his deputy, documented it in a memo, Mr. Rogers maintained that he did not take the request as an order to do anything improper.
Earlier this year, Rogers testified to Congress with evident frustration that he had been granted no additional authority by Mr. Trump to combat potential Russian interference in the midterm elections.
What I see on the Cyber Command side leads me to believe that if we dont change the dynamic here, that this is going to continue, and 2016 wont be viewed as isolated, Rogers said. This is something that will be sustained over time.
He said of Russian interference: Were taking steps, but were probably not doing enough. He said that sanctions and other measures havent changed the calculus or the behavior by Moscow. They havent paid a price at least thats sufficient to get them to change their behavior, he added.
When asked whether he had been instructed by the White House to do more to stop Russian meddling, Rogers said, he had not. While he had taken additional within his pursue, I havent been granted any, you know, additional authorities, capacity and capability, and no, thats certainly true.
Mike Rogers retired earlier this year. Hes now a private citizen and free to say whatever he pleases. If there was a deep state plot to undermine Trump, surely hed be anxious to expose it. Yet he has yet to do so. We might ask, why? The most obvious explanation is that he simply does not believe such a plot exists.
Mr. Rogers pro-Trump fans might argue that he fears that no media outlet would report on such an allegation sympathetically. To that, I say, Admiral Rogers, if youre listening, Roughly Explained will print your story in full unabridged form anytime. I eagerly await your call, but I dont expect that it will ever come. So much so that if it turns out that Mr. Rogers publicly declares that the Russia investigation a hoax, a witch hunt, or a deep state conspiracy I will eat these words literally, I will print out a copy of this post and eat it. Thus far, Mr. Rogers has given little reason to fear that I will be forced to make good on that wager.
I know longer think of this as an outlandish possibility at all.
The timing of all this is driven by the election. Trump needs to get re-elected to continue his plans.
Well he is British!
Lots of dirty hands among Democrats and I hope they are quaking in the boots.
I believe the original intent was to destroy Trump, his organization, the populist movement and once and for all eliminate the conservative base as a political threat. The Republican establishment aided in the effort because they too wanted the base to get in line. They worked to undermine the tea party movement in concert with the IRS and Obama Administration. The intimidation factor would be to great for anyone else to take on the State afterwards.
When Trump won the effort had to shift to denying him the office or impeaching him from office. McCain, Ryan, Burr etc were all actors.
Where we go now is unchartered territory.
Then turn over his evidence to Barr and have him run with it.
My theory is that someone at NSA tipped Trump off early on. When Mike Rogers went to Trump Tower, they had to move. If they didn’t move then the scum would know Trump was onto them from the git go!
I wondered about that myself. I've also wondered if that quip during the debates about Hillary being in prison had some sort of knowledge behind it, but Trump might have been surprised at just how much rot was in the DOJ, FBI, and other agencies which is why we havent seen her doing a perp walk.
Similarly, the story line on Montgomery was he was a brilliant general who outmaneuvered and out-fought Rommel in N Africa. Over 50 years later it was finally revealed that GB intelligence had broken Enigma and knew everything about the Germans.
Perhaps some day it will be disclosed that far from acting unilaterally, maybe key elements of patriotic US military and intelligence operations recruited Trump with guarantees of winning. In doing so, they averted a sure civil war with factions behind the military/USG splitting between support for communist vs patriot forces.
The story of Trump coming down that escalator, and then withering the deep state coup all by his lonesome self seems too fantastic to believe. If it turns out to be wholly independent, Trump needs a his own Mt Rushmore, monument on the Mall, and thousands of schools named after him.
My prediction is someone will flip (clapper?) and it will all come out!
That's like a 30 year old saying once he turns 40, we're entering uncharted territory. That is, 10s of billions of humans over time have had similar experiences. Likewise, any government, at any time in history anywhere on the globe, if they've been around long enough, have experienced exactly what the US is currently going through.
Consider that a significant body of work by Shakespeare is devoted to the various intrigues and battles for control not only in England, but Rome and the Continent as well. The point of course is that parties seeking control and violating established "rules" while contesting for power is as natural as the sun coming up each day. It's just that the US, so virginal and pure (why, I never!) thinks this is some kind of unique situation.
It's not; it's actually pretty routine. But, more importantly how either victory or defeat is handled is also pretty routine. In short, the losers are executed. There's really no quibbling - if they're aren't dealt with, then by default they win. Never before in the history of the world have losers been spared - that's what would be unique if they somehow get off with their lives intact.
Just hoping Trump gets them before
they get him.....
Especially with the recent headlines. It looks like the are switching back to the “he’s a hateful bigot” angle.....
If Zero gets any spill, look for the “race card” play to heat up dramatically. That’s how you will know!
So I’ve heard!
British subject, as it were.
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