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[Catholic Caucus] Former Pope Benedict blames church’s scandals partly on the ‘60s
NY Post ^ | April 10, 2019 | Sohrab Ahmari

Posted on 04/10/2019 7:23:24 PM PDT by G Larry

"The retired pontiff has drafted a 6,000-word document....meant to assist the Church in seeking “a new beginning” and making her “again truly credible as a light among peoples and as a force in service against the powers of ­destruction.”

In the preface, he makes it clear that he is “no longer directly responsible” for the church and that he consulted Pope Francis before ­resolving to make the document public.

Nevertheless, Benedict’s “The Church and the Scandal of Sexual Abuse” has the unmistakable ring of a papal document. You might even call it a post-retirement encyclical.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: benedict; document
I can't imagine the fallout from this publication.

I pray this is the beginning of the much needed healing and reform.

1 posted on 04/10/2019 7:23:24 PM PDT by G Larry
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To: ebb tide; Salvation; Catholicguy; Mrs. Don-o; ArrogantBustard; nickcarraway

Ping!


2 posted on 04/10/2019 7:27:58 PM PDT by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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To: G Larry

“Part of the physiognomy of the Revolution of 1968 was that pedophilia was now also diagnosed as allowed and appropriate.


I remember the late sixties and the hippie movement very well. If anyone ever said pedophilia was allowed and appropriate, they had to be such a small minority that blaming them for the Church’s misdeeds is astonishing.


3 posted on 04/10/2019 7:35:58 PM PDT by sparklite2 (Don't mind me. I'm just a contrarian.)
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To: G Larry

So are Francis and his communist henchmen releasing the real Pope from gulag? Or is this just a desperation PR move because they know they are on a hopelessly sinking ship?


4 posted on 04/10/2019 7:38:27 PM PDT by KyCats
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To: G Larry
The writer of this article, Sohrab Ahmari, is a recent Iranian-American convert to Catholicism. The story of his conversion to Christ impressed me deeply.

It's hard to imagine being a convert in today's rather terrifying atmosphere --- even though I am on the a parish RCIA teaching team and I see converts on a regular basis. We're welcoming another little flock into the parish in, OMG, 10 days.

But Pope (I'll still call him 'Pope') Benedict offers a little signal of hope.

I wish he would write and say so much more! I am frankly amazed he could get this new publication past his "handlers." May the Holy Spirit and all the blessed angels protect him!

5 posted on 04/10/2019 7:46:14 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Jesus, my Lord, my God, my All.)
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To: sparklite2
"If anyone ever said pedophilia was allowed and appropriate, . . ."

Anyone who buys the pederasty of queers in the Church as pedophilia while the same media telling that lie ignore or call normal the exact same pederasty nearly all queers in every other part of society engage in has already lost their ability to understand what's been going on in a well organized manner since the sixties.

6 posted on 04/10/2019 8:03:01 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
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To: G Larry
and in a "special to the National Catholic Register", Pope Emeritus Benedict writes:

“The Church and the Scandal of Sexual Abuse”

Here, in part:

"My work is divided into three parts.

In the first part, I aim to present briefly the wider social context of the question, without which the problem cannot be understood. I try to show that in the 1960s an egregious event occurred, on a scale unprecedented in history. It could be said that in the 20 years from 1960 to 1980, the previously normative standards regarding sexuality collapsed entirely, and a new normalcy arose that has by now been the subject of laborious attempts at disruption.

In the second part, I aim to point out the effects of this situation on the formation of priests and on the lives of priests.

Finally, in the third part, I would like to develop some perspectives for a proper response on the part of the Church."

7 posted on 04/10/2019 8:15:06 PM PDT by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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To: G Larry
Rats!

Forgot the link!

>http://www.ncregister.com/daily-news/the-church-and-the-scandal-of-sexual-abuse

8 posted on 04/10/2019 8:16:42 PM PDT by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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To: G Larry; Al Hitan; Biggirl; Bigg Red; Coleus; DuncanWaring; ebb tide; Fedora; heterosupremacist; ...

Catholic ping.


9 posted on 04/10/2019 8:19:15 PM PDT by sitetest (No longer mostly dead.)
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To: G Larry
Wow! "Full text of Benedict XVI: 'The Church and the scandal of sexual abuse'"

>https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/full-text-of-benedict-xvi-the-church-and-the-scandal-of-sexual-abuse-59639

10 posted on 04/10/2019 8:20:01 PM PDT by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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To: G Larry

I wonder what the world shattering egregious event was in the sixties, given that the DSM did not de-pathologize homosexuality until 1973.


11 posted on 04/10/2019 8:20:57 PM PDT by sparklite2 (Don't mind me. I'm just a contrarian.)
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To: G Larry

the 60’s of which century?


12 posted on 04/10/2019 8:25:04 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: sparklite2
Lets focus on the fix presented in part 3 of his essay:

>https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/full-text-of-benedict-xvi-the-church-and-the-scandal-of-sexual-abuse-59639

13 posted on 04/10/2019 8:44:39 PM PDT by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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To: G Larry

Thank you. Pope Benedict XVI speaks. Sweet.

“Veritatis Splendor on August 6, 1993… triggered vehement backlashes on the part of moral theologians.” Sad but true.


14 posted on 04/10/2019 10:49:20 PM PDT by Falconspeed
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To: sparklite2

I wonder what the world shattering egregious event was in the sixties, given that the DSM did not de-pathologize homosexuality until 1973.


If it was de-pathologized in 1973, that means that there was a movement towards de-pathologizing it previously. It isn’t as if in 1972 every single person responsible for the DSM thought that homosexuality was pathological, and then some new discovery made everyone change their minds.

Illinois legalized same-sex sodomy in 1962.

While the repeal of the laws was gradual, I think it safe to say that before laws are repealed there is usually a long period of turning a blind eye to the practice while people consider what is done. Thus if something becomes official in 1973, it probably does have roots in the 1960’s.

Many seminaries following Vatican II became playgrounds for Avant Garde shrinks, so I think that while the roots ultimately run deeper than the 1960’s, the problem certainly greatly expanded during that time.


15 posted on 04/11/2019 1:53:28 AM PDT by Hieronymus ("I shall drink--to the Pope, if you please,-still, to Conscience first, and to the Pope afterwards.")
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To: Hieronymus

Well, the major thing that happened in the 60s was Vatican II, the fallout from which (since VII made it clear that everything was up for grabs) definitely contributed to what is called in Europe the “Revolution of ‘68.”

You may not remember, but there were student riots all over Europe, particularly in France, where they demanded the imposition of Socialism, the end to laws governing sexual behavior, the free use of drugs, and a host of other things (such as unrestricted abortion) that are still demands of the left. It is just that now these demands have been largely accepted and have become the dominant position in the West, either actively (in the case of the left) or passively (in the case of conservatives who accept it as just how things are).

We had a taste of this with the leftist riots at the Democratic National Convention in Chicago in 1968, reminding us that even the Democrats were considered “conservative” by the leftist radicals of the time. But now all of the ideas of the Abie Hoffman crowd have been mainstreamed.


16 posted on 04/11/2019 4:35:29 AM PDT by livius
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To: livius

Thanks for an informed answer. FReepmail on its way.


17 posted on 04/11/2019 4:58:41 AM PDT by sparklite2 (Don't mind me. I'm just a contrarian.)
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To: sparklite2

If you read the text you’ll find that he is, in fact, blaming the flawed implementation and interpretation of the Vatican II reforms. As for pedophilia being normalized, I think he’s referring to the North American Man Boy Love Association (NAMBLA) of which some clergy were actually acknowledged members.


18 posted on 04/11/2019 11:32:37 AM PDT by Rich21IE
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I think he’s referring to the North American Man Boy Love Association (NAMBLA) of which some clergy were actually acknowledged members.


That can’t be it. There was no NAMBLA until 1978. I’m beginning to think he was looking to blame societal change for the priest problem and was careless in his choices.


19 posted on 04/11/2019 4:00:43 PM PDT by sparklite2 (Don't mind me. I'm just a contrarian.)
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