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Raising Wages for Inmates Will Raise Eyebrows Across NY
NYS Assembly ^ | February 2019 | Assemblyman Brian Kolb

Posted on 03/31/2019 6:53:21 PM PDT by GuavaCheesePuff

Albany’s pro-criminal crowd is at it again. A bill introduced by the Majority conferences in the Assembly and Senate would give inmates in state prisons a healthy pay raise for work they do behind bars. The proposal triples the minimum wage for prisoners, and naturally, New York taxpayers are expected to pay the bill.

A component of the state prison system is an industrial division called “Corcraft,” where inmates produce a wide variety of products, such as office furniture, apparel and other items. The overarching goal of the program is for inmates to develop skills, and reinforce work ethic to prepare them for eventual release.

But the proposed prisoner pay raise is simply the latest in a growing list of misguided priorities coming out of Albany. Over the past two years, proposals directed at helping rapists, murderers and violent abusers have been abundant and out-of-touch. The initiatives and actions from Albany’s pro-criminal crowd have been nothing short of offensive. Consider that recently New York State has:

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TOPICS: Government; US: New York
KEYWORDS: briankolb; kolb; nys
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To: dp0622

Free room, board, medical, food, no family to take care of, no real worries...


So now they started a program to give computer tablets to every inmate and provide tuition-free college to prisoners.

And they’ve issued unilateral pardons to parolees, restoring voting privileges prior to the end of their sentencing requirements.


21 posted on 03/31/2019 8:13:13 PM PDT by boycott
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To: boycott

Good!!

How about a ####ing 50,000 dollar Bonus when they get out to get them on their feet again.

SMH


22 posted on 03/31/2019 8:19:15 PM PDT by dp0622 (The Left should know if.. Trump is kicked out of office, it is WAR)
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To: Paladin2
"License Plate fees to rise?"

I was an officer at Auburn State Prison (Auburn, NY), when I first started the job in 1980. Until then, I never knew that Auburn is where they made all the license plates for the State. They also build office furniture that is sold through Corcraft Industries. Don't know if they still do it, but when I was there, they were making road signs via a contract they had with another State.

23 posted on 03/31/2019 9:34:46 PM PDT by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne)
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To: madison10
"Prisoners are paid?! WTH?"

Yep. They even get paid if they are on "idle" status. That means they haven't been assigned a job or program yet, or they left the job they had, or were kicked out of the program they were in. I retired from NY's prison system in 2003. Back then, "idle" inmates got 15 cents a day.

When I first started at Auburn Prison in 1980, inmates were able to get college degrees. Auburn inmates could get a degree from Syracuse University. Other facilities offered community college classes. George Pataki got rid of all that. Now Andrew Cuomo wants to re-instate it. Makes me glad I'm outta' there.

24 posted on 03/31/2019 9:39:25 PM PDT by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne)
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To: Zhang Fei
"...it’s not such a bad idea to pay people more than gulag wages to get productive work out of them."

They also get paid for going to school, and being in occupational programs.

25 posted on 03/31/2019 9:41:33 PM PDT by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne)
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To: Zhang Fei

Max security prisoners in NYS are only allowed 2 packages a year. Wages are used to buy food, socks, underwear, toothpaste etc from the commisary. Their prices are not cheap.


26 posted on 03/31/2019 9:43:52 PM PDT by gcparent (Justice Brett Kavanaugh)
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To: Redwood71
The day will come when prisoners will be sending money home to mom so she can survive."

They won't ever do that. With inmates, it's all about me, me, me. They're the ones who get money sent from their family members to be placed in their accounts. They can order items from catalogs, as long as they are department approved. And they can get packages containing food, magazines, and other allowed items, sent to them each month, or a family member can bring a package when they come to visit. When I was still working, they were allowed 3 packages a month, not to exceed 50 lbs. in total weight for the month. I'm assuming it's changed since then. Gotta' keep the cons happy!!

27 posted on 03/31/2019 9:47:45 PM PDT by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne)
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To: gcparent
"Max security prisoners in NYS are only allowed 2 packages a year."

That's not true. When I retired in 2003, all prisons ran on the same directive. They were allowed 3 packages a month, and the total of all three packages could not exceed 50 pounds. The only restrictions on packages were for inmates locked in special housing, or inmates who had lost their package privileges due to disciplinary, and that would only be for a very short while.

And they get their underwear from the Clothing Officer...just like they get a set of clothes when they are released. Inmates pay no sales tax on anything they buy from the Commissary, and the prices are cheaper than what you and I pay.

28 posted on 03/31/2019 9:53:19 PM PDT by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
Thanks GuavaCheesePuff.

29 posted on 03/31/2019 11:31:19 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: o-n-money

“They are getting free room and board.”

And medical.

So, it’s a living wage!


30 posted on 04/01/2019 4:31:59 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine ( "It's always a party when you're eating the seed corn.")
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To: mass55th

From what I know about prisoners, and my knowledge has been on the military side, a lot of them are not real savvy in the ways of the world. But one of the consistent displays of prisoners, is the deep feeling that they have failed their families in many cases and make efforts to help them. Will they give to UNICEF? I sincerely doubt it, unless they start making enough money in the joint to need tax write offs.

rwood


31 posted on 04/01/2019 5:36:59 AM PDT by Redwood71
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To: Pearls Before Swine

What would be a “living wage” for someone in prison? How much do they need, room and board are already included?


32 posted on 04/01/2019 5:41:24 AM PDT by kalee
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To: kalee

I was mostly joking when I wrote that.

But, you raise an interesting question... how much value is there to the local prison behavior in the ability to earn a little discretionary income for treats? Does it help in rehabilitation? Or do most prisoners have access to outside funds from gang or family?


33 posted on 04/01/2019 5:46:52 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine ( "It's always a party when you're eating the seed corn.")
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To: Pearls Before Swine

I was pretty sure your post was tongue in cheek, but in my mind, I could hear prison reform activists chanting it and wondered just how much they would think was enough? ;)


34 posted on 04/01/2019 5:50:59 AM PDT by kalee
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To: Innovative
Inmates are being paid?!

Always have been. Generally pennies per hour. Doing otherwise constitutes slave labor per prior court rulings.


35 posted on 04/01/2019 5:54:06 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: mass55th

Do they still have the old electric chair at Auburn?


36 posted on 04/01/2019 6:01:19 AM PDT by Palio di Siena
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To: GuavaCheesePuff

Raise their pay? Okay charge them for their healthcare and room and board.


37 posted on 04/01/2019 8:40:48 AM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Redwood71
"But one of the consistent displays of prisoners, is the deep feeling that they have failed their families in many cases and make efforts to help them."

LOL! Maybe you've seen that in military prisoners, but it doesn't exist in the regular street criminal. There may be a handful who regret their actions like first offenders, but it isn't the majority. If they had so much feeling for their families, they wouldn't have done what they did to be incarcerated, and they also wouldn't have rap sheets an arm's length, nor be repeat offenders. According to them, they were all framed.

38 posted on 04/01/2019 9:24:10 AM PDT by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne)
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To: Palio di Siena
"Do they still have the old electric chair at Auburn?"

Nope, and the site where it sat no longer exists. I was told it used to be where the South Yard, and the gateway entrance to the industry section meet. They also had trailers there for conjugal visits. I'm sure they've changed that too. I left Auburn in '83, and transferred closer to home.

The only electric chair I saw was kept at the training academy on New Scotland Road in Albany. They had a small museum there, and had what was supposed to be an electric chair. Don't know if it was the one from Auburn or not. Last time I was at the academy was for Sergeant's school, around 1990.

39 posted on 04/01/2019 9:34:49 AM PDT by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne)
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