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Green New Deal ‘Withers,’ Yet Times Runs Op-ed: People ‘Actually Like’ It
newsbusters.org ^ | 3/28/2019 | Julia A. Seymour

Posted on 03/29/2019 7:17:11 AM PDT by rktman

The Green New Deal plan got zero votes in the Senate this week. Z-E-R-O. Yet progressives continue to claim people “like” the plan, with the help of the liberal media.

Not a single Democrat senator voted in favor of the Green New Deal, with 43 voting “present” on March 26. According to USA Today, a handful of Democrats joined the Republicans in voting against it in the procedural vote — killing it “for now.”

USA Today reported the results on the front page March 27, saying “Green New Deal withers away in Senate.” In spite of the plan’s failure to even get a single Democratic senator officially on board, The New York Times ran an op-ed that day promoting it.

The op-ed from left-wing Data for Progress co-founder Sean McElwee claimed, “People Actually Like the Green New Deal. The group is one of the progressive activist groups promoting such a plan and put out its own GND blueprint in 2018.

The subhead continued, “Mitch McConnell’s show vote in the Senate on Tuesday rejected the plan, but Republicans may come to regret their mockery.”

(Excerpt) Read more at newsbusters.org ...


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Yeah, there would be plenty of "green" in the mix. Seems like "they" have managed to sell it here in NV. SB358 of this legislative session would require the state to put in place renewable sources a the 50% level by 2030. Why in the h*ll would you put that in the Nevada Revised Statutes? Money. BIG money for somebody. Apparently I'm the only dissenter since every comment I read posted supports this crap. I'll provide a link if anyone cares.
1 posted on 03/29/2019 7:17:11 AM PDT by rktman
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To: rktman

Intro to bill:

S.B. 358-

*SB358*SENATE BILL NO.358–

SENATORS BROOKS,CANNIZZARO AND DENIS

MARCH 18,2019____________

Referred to Committee on Growth and InfrastructureSUMMARY—Revises provisions relating to the renewable energy portfolio standard.(BDR58-301)

FISCAL NOTE:Effect on Local Government: No.

Effect on the State: Yes.

~EXPLANATION –Matter in bolded italicsis new; matter between brackets [omitted material]is material to be omitted.

AN ACT relating to renewable energy; declaring the policy of this State concerning renewable energy; revising provisions governing certain reportsrelating to the portfolio standard; revising provisions relating to the acquisition or construction of renewable energy facilities by certain electric utilities; revising provisions governing certain plans for the construction or expansion of transmission facilities to serve renewable energy zones and to facilitate compliance with the portfolio standard; revisingthe types of renewable energy that may be used to comply with the portfolio standard; revising the portfolio standard for providers of electric service in this State; revising the manner in which providers of electric service may comply with the portfoliostandard; revising the applicability of the portfolio standard;requiring the Public Utilities Commission of Nevada to revise any existing portfolio standard applicable to a provider of new electric resources to comply with the portfolio standard established by this act;and providing other matters properly relating thereto.

Link for comment:

https://www.leg.state.nv.us/App/Opinions/80th2019/


2 posted on 03/29/2019 7:21:03 AM PDT by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: rktman

People like most everything that sounds good, until they read the fine print.


3 posted on 03/29/2019 7:22:27 AM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: rktman

BULLSHIT FAKE NEWS! Which people liked it? The bums you found camping on the street. The derelicts that don’t work? The slugs that live in New York? FAKE!


4 posted on 03/29/2019 7:23:40 AM PDT by abbastanza
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To: rktman

People like a world with no airplanes in the USA, no motor cars, no petroleum industry or wealth?

And it’s only the USA that would be backwater fourth world podunk like this.


5 posted on 03/29/2019 7:25:56 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Denounce DUAC - The Democrats Un-American Activists Committee)
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To: a fool in paradise

Don’t you love the smell of dung fires in the morning from the front porch of your mud hut?


6 posted on 03/29/2019 7:27:53 AM PDT by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: rktman

They just haven’t thought of a sufficiently devious method of getting it passed yet.


7 posted on 03/29/2019 7:28:12 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: MichaelCorleone

Until they read the fine print = makes AOC Supreme Leader For Life ,LOL


8 posted on 03/29/2019 7:30:20 AM PDT by butlerweave
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To: MichaelCorleone

I think this is something that the media like, so they decide to report positively on it.

I haven’t seen any polls on public opinion on this. Are people really behind it and behind Ocasio-Cortez, or is this something the media are cheerleaders for, because it’s a classic liberal cause of the day?


9 posted on 03/29/2019 7:31:10 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: rktman

I doubt if many people think cow farts are a serious problem.


10 posted on 03/29/2019 7:31:22 AM PDT by Berosus (I wish I had as much faith in God as liberals have in government.)
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To: rktman

ICE AGES – WHAT ARE THEY AND WHAT CAUSES THEM?
By Sandy Eldredge and Bob Biek

“Subtle hint from an old gramp”:

(Man, cars, trains, planes, farting cows and how we live today did not cause any ice ages in the past. Even more
we didn’t cause any Gorebull Warming periods then or now.)

What is an ice age?

An ice age is a long interval of time (millions to tens of millions of years) when global temperatures are relatively cold and large areas of the Earth are covered by continental ice sheets and alpine glaciers. Within an ice age are multiple shorter-term periods of warmer temperatures when glaciers retreat (called interglacials or interglacial cycles) and colder temperatures when glaciers advance (called glacials or glacial cycles).

At least five major ice ages have occurred throughout Earth’s history: the earliest was over 2 billion years ago, and the most recent one began approximately 3 million years ago and continues today (yes, we live in an ice age!).

Currently, we are in a warm inter glacial that began about 11,000 years ago. The last period of glaciation, which is often informally called the “Ice Age,” peaked about 20,000 years ago. At that time, the world was on average probably about 10°F (5°C) colder than today, and locally as much as 40°F (22°C) colder.

What causes an ice age and glacial-inter glacial cycles?
Many factors contribute to climate variations, including changes in ocean and atmosphere circulation patterns, varying concentrations of atmospheric carbon dioxide, and even volcanic eruptions. The following discusses key factors in (1) initiating ice ages and (2) the timing of glacial-inter glacial cycles.

One significant trigger in initiating ice ages is the changing positions of Earth’s ever-moving continents, which affect ocean and atmospheric circulation patterns. When plate-tectonic movement causes continents to be arranged such that warm water flow from the equator to the poles is blocked or reduced, ice sheets may arise and set another ice age in motion.

Today’s ice age most likely began when the land bridge between North and South America (Isthmus of Panama) formed and ended the exchange of tropical water between the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans, significantly altering ocean currents.

How do we know about past ice ages?
Scientists have reconstructed past ice ages by piecing together information derived from studying ice cores, deep sea sediments, fossils, and landforms.

Ice and sediment cores reveal an impressive detailed history of global climate. Cores are collected by driving long hollow tubes as much as 2 miles deep into glacial ice or ocean floor sediments. Ice cores provide annual and even seasonal climate records for up to hundreds of thousands of years, complementing the millions of years of climate records in ocean sediment cores.

Within just the past couple of decades, ice cores recovered from Earth’s two existing ice sheets, Greenland and Antarctica, have revealed the most detailed climate records yet.

Do ice ages come and go slowly or rapidly?
Records show that ice ages typically develop slowly, whereas they end more abruptly. Glacials and interglacials within an ice age display this same trend.

On a shorter time scale, global temperatures fluctuate often and rapidly. Various records reveal numerous large, widespread, abrupt climate changes over the past 100,000 years. One of the more recent intriguing findings is the remarkable speed of these changes. Within the incredibly short time span (by geologic standards) of only a few decades or even a few years, global temperatures have fluctuated by as much as 15°F (8°C) or more.

For example, as Earth was emerging out of the last glacial cycle, the warming trend was interrupted 12,800 years ago when temperatures dropped dramatically in only several decades. A mere 1,300 years later, temperatures locally spiked as much as 20°F (11°C) within just several years. Sudden changes like this occurred at least 24 times during the past 100,000 years. In a relative sense, we are in a time of unusually stable temperatures today—how long will it last?

Glacials and interglacials occur in fairly regular repeated cycles. The timing is governed to a large degree by predictable cyclic changes in Earth’s orbit, which affect the amount of sunlight reaching different parts of Earth’s surface. The three orbital variations are: (1) changes in Earth’s orbit around the Sun (eccentricity), (2) shifts in the tilt of Earth’s axis (obliquity), and (3) the wobbling motion of Earth’s axis (precession).

https://geology.utah.gov/map-pub/survey-notes/glad-you-asked/ice-ages-what-are-they-and-what-causes-them/


11 posted on 03/29/2019 7:31:31 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Trump Tweeted his way out of the Deep State's grip. 23 Mar 2019 | Mark Steyn!)
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To: a fool in paradise

“People like a world with no airplanes in the USA, no motor cars, no petroleum industry or wealth?”

Why, yes.

No phone, no lights, no motor cars,
not a single luxury.
Like Robinson Crusoe,
as primitive as can be.


12 posted on 03/29/2019 7:31:35 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: Grampa Dave

At least two of those ice ages were Snowball Earth. Where the earth is nearly completely covered in ice & snow.

We are still in a major glaciation period - the Quaternary (A period of cyclic transcontinental glaciations!). There is no firm geologic\geophysical evidence its ended. (I actually don’t know of any evidence its ended!) What we have experienced for the last say 20,000 years is a warming lull for the most part. (There were cold periods in the lull like “The Little Ice Age!”) So !

As Ned Stark would say

“Winter is Coming!”

We just don’t know when!


13 posted on 03/29/2019 7:39:06 AM PDT by Reily
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To: Reily

The green new deal needs to be called The DEAD Green New Deal.


14 posted on 03/29/2019 7:41:57 AM PDT by CMailBag
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Well that may not be true. Seems like most of vegas-ites support it and the state assembly has a super majority of dems and the state senate is one seat short of a super majority so I’m thinkin’ my one dissenting comment is NOT going to stop it from passing. Yeah, NV is pretty much toast. As for the national legislative body, they’re workin’ on some devious plan because, rust never sleeps.


15 posted on 03/29/2019 7:43:01 AM PDT by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: Reily

We are still in a major glaciation period - the Quaternary (A period of cyclic transcontinental glaciations!). There is no firm geologic\geophysical evidence its ended. (I actually don’t know of any evidence its ended!)

The good historical studies of our earth’s climate history, backs up what you posted. Many say we are still in final stages of an Ice Age.

Thanks for your post.


16 posted on 03/29/2019 7:50:16 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Trump Tweeted his way out of the Deep State's grip. 23 Mar 2019 | Mark Steyn!)
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To: rktman

Welp, we only got 11.9 years left...


17 posted on 03/29/2019 7:55:57 AM PDT by bigbob (Trust Trump. Trust the Plan.)
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To: Grampa Dave

I got a BS in Geophysics in 1977, never got to use it as such but I do remember a few things!


18 posted on 03/29/2019 7:56:18 AM PDT by Reily
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To: rktman

NY Times...how much carbon do you produce printing on dead trees?


19 posted on 03/29/2019 7:57:09 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper
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To: WKUHilltopper

Well, it’s sort of like the whole Davos thing and private jets. As long as you’re spreading the truth, it may cost a little in the short term. Butt it’s worth it. Just ask ‘ahnold’. LOL!


20 posted on 03/29/2019 8:01:25 AM PDT by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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