Posted on 03/14/2019 7:21:32 AM PDT by reaganaut1
While elites will always find a way to cheat, they shouldn’t be allowed to and this should be a big deal. And we should make laws around people cheating, like we do with taxes etc.
If burglars figured out a good way around your home’s security system and kept returning, YOUD GET A NEW ONE. Same thing.
761 families are involved in the current scandal, just to get their kids into the right college/university. Imagine when tuition is free, certian universities will still be very difficult to get into and with government oversight, mayhem and birbery will flourish.
It looks like they are just looking for a way to take away MY tax deductions.
Just one more way the dems are screwing it up for the people who are really paying for college.
Yeah, regular folks like me.
Why not just punish the perps?????
We don't need a law. What we need is to end the privileges of the out-of-control elite that has destroyed the nation.
Disagree somewhat. Nothing wrong with donating to a college. A donation is one thing but bribery is another. Admissions should not give winks and nods to legacies or donations.
That’s easily said but hard to enforce when they don’t limit admissions to HS grades and SATs. Just because Dante is great at football doesn’t mean he’s college material. Just because Tiffany’s daddy gave the college $1M, doesn’t mean she has the smarts to find or care about finding her Eng 101 classroom. The same goes for Jose who gets a full ride scholarship just because he’s here illegally or that Mohammed gets to take away a desk from a US citizen just because he’s paying higher out of state (country) tuition.
There will be problem children admitted no matter the criteria but if colleges would drop the vanity letters and stick with GPA and SATs (and I hate SATs), they’d have more students who want a college education. Deport the illegals. End student visas. Tell the great HS athletes to try out for the pros. And drop the silly courses.
“Higher Education” is one of the biggest scams on the planet. Put a kid $200K in debt and teach them no skills to give them a chance to pay it back.
Liberals always destroy their own. This was bound to sink sooner or later.look at every Democrat run city in the US.
In the late 50’s and early 60’s an athlete had to be meet admission requirements before receiving a football scholarship. I personally know a great HS tackle who was recruited by several name universities until they saw his grades. He was eventually taken on a one year academic probation by a smaller college. He made it, and graduated in four years on the dean’s list; went to Vietnam as an OCS lieutenant, received a bronze star for valor; and recently retired from large industrial company.
There should not be a tax deduction for any charity.
While this sounds good people are very ingenuous and a provision such as this is easy to subvert: Suitable timing of the donation and a verbal agreement.
Yup...I’m sure Wyden will get a lobbyist to funnel money to his kids college...don’t fall for this, folks
Yup, what you said.
The media is breathlessly covering a few rich kids stealing a few college slots.
Meanwhile, large numbers of government supported affirmative action kids are stealing the earned spots of Asian and White kids.
Wake up people and quit being lead around by the media
Hear! Hear!
Compared to affirmative action kids taking up the seats that Asian and White kids have earned, I bet a much smaller number.
But the media doesn't cover it, nor apparently do people here on FR.
There is no reason college should be the next step for all kids. College was supposed to be for the very brightest, not dumbed down so that no one fails. That piece of paper they give you upon completion is just that - a piece of paper. It means nothing.
Back in the 70s, minimum wage was about $2.50. An hour credit cost $3 at a state university. Today, minimum wage is $7.25 but one undergrad fine arts hour (the cheapest) at UT is $1,630. Something is definitely wrong in there somewhere.
A similar statistic (but way off topic):
My dad paid just over $7 to get a building permit for our house in King county in 1967. Now, it is well over $30,000.
Yes, a lot of stuff is broken. And like all broken things, eventually no amount of duct tape will keep it operating. That time is actually approaching.
We need a system that allows people to learn in a manner that works best for them - and then award degrees on the basis of universal testing focused on the subject area for the degree they are seeking. Cheating on those exams should be a felony, and the questions for those exams would have to be chosen randomly, for each, test, from a pool of questions submitted by people from multiple different backgrounds involved in that field (i.e., not written by Harvard, Yale, or Princeton faculty - etc.). That way colleges/universities would have to teach the subject - not be a prep course for the exam. These would need to be multi-day examinations - covering all major aspects of a field of study.
You would be eligible to take the examination whether you studied mostly online or at Harvard, etc. You would need to show documentation that you actually trained for that particular field, as a prerequisite to taking the exam - but it wouldn't have to be ‘classic’ training. Let's say you worked at an architecture firm for 4 years as an understudy, and took online classes in addition - you would qualify to take the architecture exam.
The exam results would be published for everyone to see, not with the scores of each individual, but the scores listed from each university, each online course, etc., so that people could compare the quality of their education from institution to institution to non-traditional (and likely much cheaper) educational processes.
Believe it or not, athletes do have to get in with decent grades. Though some sports have lower bars than others. I know of two elite athletes who switched sports once they were accepted. Each a star in their sport, they each were granted a scholarship at the U for the other’s sport, and then “the coaches decided to switch the players.” Ha ha ha. (Yeah, you guessed it, the sport with the lower grades bar was football)
Decent grades but not up to par. I know a couple of hockey players and football players who attended Harvard. They would have gotten into Boston College but no way Harvard with their grades.
It would work that way in an ideal world.
However, what about the Classics Departments that don’t want to teach Greek and Latin any more?
http://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3731649/posts?page=74#74
It’s so much easier to say Gildersleeve was a racist.
What about all the courses in Gay Studies, Women’s Studies, etc.?
De-accredit those parts of the college and yes, you have an argument.
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