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ICYMI: Sutherland Springs Families File Suit Against Gun Dealer Who Sold AR-15 to Shooter
townhall.com ^ | 3/3/2019 | Beth Baumann

Posted on 03/04/2019 10:24:21 AM PST by rktman

"Academy violated existing firearms laws when one of its San Antonio stores illegally sold the mass shooter the High Capacity Ruger AR-556 semi-automatic rifle that was used in the shooting," the lawsuit reads.

The plaintiffs argue that because the gunman lived in Colorado at the time, and the state adopted a ban on "high capacity assault rifles," Academy Sports should have denied the sale.

"At the time the mass shooter illegally purchased the High Capacity Ruger AR-556 model 8500 at Academy in Texas, he reported a Colorado Springs, Colorado address on his Firearms Transaction Record, Form 4473. He presented Defendant Academy with a state-issued ID that reflected a matching state residence. This fact alone legally disqualified the mass shooter from purchasing the Ruger AR-556 model 8500 firearm," the lawsuit says.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Government; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: 2a; banglist; kaba; legalbusiness; texas
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Uh, he left the AF with a "bad misconduct" discharge? Never see one of those.
1 posted on 03/04/2019 10:24:21 AM PST by rktman
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2 posted on 03/04/2019 10:26:16 AM PST by 2harddrive (Go to www.CodeIsFreeSpeech.com for 10 FREE 3D-printer gun blueprints!)
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By the way, he DID NOT buy a Ruger AC-556 at Academy. No WAY Jose! That gun is their SELECT-FIRE version!


3 posted on 03/04/2019 10:27:39 AM PST by 2harddrive (Go to www.CodeIsFreeSpeech.com for 10 FREE 3D-printer gun blueprints!)
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so the gun dealer is liable for the mistake of the AF and Government insta check system.


4 posted on 03/04/2019 10:29:09 AM PST by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world.)
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Are they going to sue Ford too? I mean, he drove the car there to facilitate the crime. Is Hornady bullets being sued? Remington cartridge company? Alliant Powder? How about Proctor and Gamble or other drug companies that he might have had an RX to. If he was under the influence, do we sue Budweiser?

Where does this end?

Morons....

5 posted on 03/04/2019 10:29:17 AM PST by DCBryan1 (Quit calling them liberals, progs, socialists, or democrats. Call them what they are: COMMUNISTS!!!!)
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An AR-556, perhaps. But this suit will get TOSSED.


6 posted on 03/04/2019 10:32:36 AM PST by 2harddrive (Go to www.CodeIsFreeSpeech.com for 10 FREE 3D-printer gun blueprints!)
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Yeah. The families really ought to sue the Air Force. But that would get them nothing, so yeah. Sue Academy Sports & Outdoors.

And play the Victim Card.


7 posted on 03/04/2019 10:32:47 AM PST by Responsibility2nd
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This was a sale in Texas to someone who lived in Colorado.

If some girl from Texas goes to a CA PP abortion clinic, do they check on Texas law before providing services. I don’t think so.


8 posted on 03/04/2019 10:33:40 AM PST by zencycler
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I understand the church has received plentiful donations. And so are now becoming gun control activists rather than a Christian equipping organization?

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/texas/2018/07/09/sutherland-springs-church-receives-291-million-donations


9 posted on 03/04/2019 10:35:18 AM PST by Blue Collar Christian (Socialism is for losers.)
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Frivolous lawsuit.

The mags are banned, not the guns that accept them.


10 posted on 03/04/2019 10:36:23 AM PST by sevlex
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These type of suits are illegal. They do this all the time and typically end up in a judgement where their “victim” has to pay court fees. The lawyers involved need to be disbarred.

Also:
1. It’s not illegal to sell a long arm to someone with an out of state licence.
2. It’s not even illegal to buy that gun in Colorado or to have that gun in Colorado Springs.
3. The magazines would be technically illegal to buy in CO, but nothing in our law says people in other states can’t sell a magazine to someone with a CO drivers license. He could have even brought the magazines back to CO without fear of prosecution. The law is very weird and involves the police proving you bought the magazine after some date. There isn’t a good way for them to prove this and the number of prosecutions under our magazine law is still 0.


11 posted on 03/04/2019 10:37:47 AM PST by cpt jack 1
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The plaintiffs argue that because the gunman lived in Colorado at the time, and the state adopted a ban on "high capacity assault rifles," Academy Sports should have denied the sale.

CO does not prohibit "high capacity assault rifles" but they do limit new magazines to 15 rounds. It was not illegal for the guy to make the purchase (AF screw up not withstanding)but it would violate CO law if he brought a 30 round mag back to the state.

12 posted on 03/04/2019 10:39:30 AM PST by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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Bad + Mis = double negative = good?

So if I drive to Colorado from Tennessee and buy some pot, my employer can sue the pot shop for selling to an out of state person?

If a teen who is six months pregnant, drives to New York from Alabama for an abortion, Alabama can sue Planned Parenthood in New York?

If a New Yorker brings in soda from out of state, the shop that sold it is liable?

Where does it end?


13 posted on 03/04/2019 10:40:55 AM PST by Ingtar
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By the way, he DID NOT buy a Ruger AC-556 at Academy. No WAY Jose! That gun is their SELECT-FIRE version!.

Good catch. Don't let facts get in the way of a gun grabbing story!

FWIW:

Ruger AC 556. Title 2 NFA. Approx $10,000.00 depending on configuration and accessories:

Ruger AR 556. Semi auto AR 15 clone. Title 1/modern sporting rifle.


14 posted on 03/04/2019 10:42:13 AM PST by DCBryan1 (Quit calling them liberals, progs, socialists, or democrats. Call them what they are: COMMUNISTS!!!!)
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I’m no lawyer, but I believe it is legal to purchase long guns out of state. And since he obviously passed the checks in place at the time of purchase, Academy violated no laws. The buyer didn’t violate the law until he transported it back to Colorado and, of course USED it illegally.


15 posted on 03/04/2019 10:42:20 AM PST by Quickgun (I got here kicking,screaming and covered in someone else's blood. I can go out that way if I have to)
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Are they going to sue Ford too? I mean, he drove the car there to facilitate the crime. Is Hornady bullets being sued? Remington cartridge company? Alliant Powder? How about Proctor and Gamble or other drug companies that he might have had an RX to. If he was under the influence, do we sue Budweiser?
Where does this end?

Morons....

You got it


16 posted on 03/04/2019 10:43:36 AM PST by Dawgreg
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So Colorado must be required to uphold open carry laws for people in Colorado who have addresses in open carry states then, right?

Love,
O2


17 posted on 03/04/2019 10:54:05 AM PST by omegatoo (You know you'll get your money's worth...become a monthly donor!)
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The Commy Colorado magazine law is unenforceable and the state was sued by 55 county Sheriffs over it.
18 posted on 03/04/2019 10:55:41 AM PST by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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Of course. 😹👮🏼
19 posted on 03/04/2019 10:58:37 AM PST by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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I’m no lawyer, but I believe it is legal to purchase long guns out of state. And since he obviously passed the checks in place at the time of purchase, Academy violated no laws. The buyer didn’t violate the law until he transported it back to Colorado and, of course USED it illegally.

It is legal. I live in Texas, and bought MANY long guns from Louisiana sporting goods stores over the years.

20 posted on 03/04/2019 11:28:25 AM PST by eastexsteve
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