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Professor ' Chrislam, amalgamation of Christianity and Islam, “key or two for a more peaceful world”
Jihad Watch ^ | MAR 3, 2019 11:00 AM | ROBERT SPENCER

Posted on 03/03/2019 7:39:50 PM PST by robowombat

Professor claims Chrislam, amalgamation of Christianity and Islam, “may hold a key or two for a more peaceful world”

“John Nassivera is a former professor who retains affiliation with Columbia University’s Society of Fellows in the Humanities.” Here he argues that a blend of Christianity and Islam could be the key to world peace, and apparently for Nassivera this blend requires Christians to give up the idea of the divinity of Christ, which he claims in the section of his article not reproduced below that many early Christians didn’t believe, and that many Christians don’t believe today. That may be true in Nassivera’s circle of acquaintances but he would likely be surprised were he to float this claim in Greece, or Nigeria, or Italy.

Anyway, notice that Nassivera’s Chrislam requires concessions only of the Christians, not of the Muslims, as is always the case in these attempts at “outreach” and “dialogue.” The cooperation is all one-way. Also, in traditional Christianity, Orthodox, Catholic, and Protestant, the divinity of Christ isn’t the minor matter Nassivera makes it out to be. It is at the core of the idea of Jesus as the savior, which Islam also rejects. For Nassivera’s Chrislam to be viable, Christians would have to accept the following Qur’an verses and other Islamic teachings:

Jesus is not the Son of God and belief in the Trinity is “excess”: “O People of the Book! Do not exaggerate in your religion nor utter anything concerning Allah save the truth. The Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, was only a messenger of Allah, and his word which he conveyed to Mary, and a spirit from him. So believe in Allah and His messengers, and do not say ‘Three.’ Cease! It is better for you! Allah is only One Allah. It is far removed from his transcendent majesty that he should have a son. His is all that is in the heavens and all that is in the earth. And Allah is sufficient as Defender.” — Qur’an 4:171

And: “It is not befitting to Allah that he should beget a son. Glory be to him! When He determines a matter, he only says to it, ‘Be,’ and it is.” — Qur’an 19:35

Jesus was not crucified: “And because of their saying: We killed the Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, Allah’s messenger – they did not kill him or crucify him, but it appeared so to them; and those who disagree concerning it are in doubt about it; they have no knowledge of it except pursuit of a conjecture; they did not kill him for certain.” — Qur’an 4:157

Those who believe in the divinity of Christ are unbelievers: “They have certainly disbelieved who say that Allah is Christ, the son of Mary.” — Qur’an 5:17 (cf. 5:72)

Christians have forgotten part of the divine revelations they received: “From those, too, who call themselves Christians, We did take a covenant, but they forgot a good part of the message that was sent them: so we estranged them, with enmity and hatred between the one and the other, to the day of judgment. And soon will Allah show them what it is they have done.” — Qur’an 5:14

Those who believe that Jesus is God’s Son are accursed: “The Jews call Ezra a son of Allah, and the Christians call Christ the son of Allah. That is a saying from their mouth; they but imitate what the unbelievers of old used to say. Allah’s curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth! ” — Qur’an 9:30

Christians who do not accepted Muhammad and the Qur’an are the most vile of created beings: “Nor did those who were given the Scripture become divided until after there had come to them clear evidence. And they were not commanded except to worship Allah, sincere to Him in religion, inclining to truth, and to establish prayer and to give zakah. And that is the correct religion. Indeed, they who disbelieved among the People of the Book and the polytheists will be in the fire of Hell, abiding eternally therein. Those are the most vile of created beings.” — Qur’an 98:6

Muslims must fight against and subjugate Christians: “Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden what has been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.” — Qur’an 9:29

Also, a hadith has Muhammad predicting that Jesus will return at the end of the world and break the cross, as it is an insult to Allah’s power to say that he would have allowed one of his prophets to be crucified:

Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah’s Apostle said, “By Him in Whose Hands my soul is, son of Mary [Jesus] will shortly descend amongst you people [Muslims] as a just ruler and will break the Cross and kill the pig and abolish the Jizya [a tax taken from the non-Muslims, who are in the protection, of the Muslim government]. Then there will be abundance of money and nobody will accept charitable gifts. (Bukhari 3.34.425)

Muslims have sometimes taken this to mean not just that crosses will be destroyed in the end times, but that they should be now. In Spain in 2015, Muslims broke into a church, spray-painted “Allah” on wall, and destroyed the crucifix. In Pakistan in 2014, Muslims destroyed a church that was under construction, and desecrated the cross. When the Islamic State occupied Mosul, it made destruction of all crosses in the city a top priority.

Here, in conclusion, is my favorite New Testament verse, this time referring to Professor John Nassivera: “Leave them; they are blind guides. And if a blind man leads a blind man, both will fall into a pit.” (Matthew 15:14)

“On Faith: Chrislam, past, present and future,” by John Nassivera, Rutland Herald, March 1, 2019:

…Today, there is a new form of Islam and Christianity beginning to take shape — or perhaps, it is a recurrence to an original form of Islam. In Nigeria, a country with a large presence of both Christians and Muslims, there are those who practice a form of religion that has come to be called “Chrislam,” which is a fascinating form of monotheism — and it is spreading into the United States, as well. Those who practice Chrislam follow both Christian and Muslim traditions and theologies. They don’t think of Christianity and Islam as incompatible religions, but rather see each as being an augmentation of the other. (See “A New Religion Flourishes in Nigeria & USA,” at the website malawimuslims.com.)

Needless to say, Chrislam may hold a key or two for a more peaceful world.

Most Westerners, whether Christian or not, have no idea that both Jesus (Isa in Arabic) and his mother, Mary (Maryam in Arabic), are prominent figures in Islam’s holy book, the Quran. Muslims, in accordance with various explicit passages in the Quran, hold that Jesus was born via a virgin birth and that his mother was Mary. Islam holds that Jesus was a great prophet and teacher of major importance and in the Quran, Jesus is called “the Messiah,” “the Word of God” and “the Spirit of God” — but Islam does not go the further step, the step holding that Jesus is the Son of God and of one substance with God the Father. Muhammad, in Islam, is also a great prophet/teacher, but he is not called the Son of God, not of the same substance as God, nor is Muhammad in the Quran called the Messiah, the Word of God or the Spirit of God. In Islam, Jesus occupies the highest place among the prophets in terms of his proximity and similarity to God, but Jesus is not the “final prophet;” the final prophet is Muhammad — yet Muhammad is human and not in any sense divine. (See the recent book “The Islamic Jesus” by Mustafa Akyol, 2017.)…

The good news is that as the world becomes smaller and smaller and more and more interconnected, Christians and Muslims are going to become better and better informed about each others’ religion. Especially in Europe and Africa, Christians and Muslims are now living cheek by jowl and even inter-marrying. Truth will come out, and the truth is that Islam and Christianity have a great deal in common — especially 21st century liberal and progressive Christianity, which is a well-established movement….

As the Quran says in Surah 29: 45-49: “Dispute not with the People of the Book (Jews and Christians) … but say, We believe in the Revelation which has come down to us and in that which came down to you; our God and your God is one; and it is to Him we all bow.”

May God, Allah and Chrislam be with you.


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To: SaveFerris

It’s like the Chronicles of Narnia with Tashlan.


61 posted on 03/04/2019 4:25:03 AM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: robowombat

Ummm no


62 posted on 03/04/2019 4:37:47 AM PST by Altura Ct.
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To: lightman

A “Light Hearted” depiction.
Thanks.


63 posted on 03/04/2019 4:45:11 AM PST by Big Red Badger (Despised by the Despicable!)
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To: SaveFerris
One-World Religion. Eventually led by a False Prophet.

Sure sounds like Mystery Babylon, doesn't it?

64 posted on 03/04/2019 5:00:28 AM PST by Sirius Lee (In God We Trust, In Trump We MAGA)
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To: metmom

[We ARE in the last times.]

yep


65 posted on 03/04/2019 12:00:33 PM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: Sirius Lee; metmom; SkyPilot; null and void; Roman_War_Criminal; Lera; 444Flyer; SVTCobra03; ...

[ Sure sounds like Mystery Babylon, doesn’t it? ]

Yep. She’s destroyed by the Antichrist at some point.

Seems to be detailed from 18:4 on

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation+18&version=NKJV

That’s she’s destroyed and others weep indicates to me it’s a regional location BUT does have worldwide reach and influence. IMHO

FWIW (not that you said this) I do not believe this is the United States of America. However, what with Hollywood, etc. it does seem to resemble this in a lot of ways.

The world is definitely turning more anti-God.

Wish I could remember the name shown in the commercial I saw yesterday in the late afternoon. A guy walks up to a scanner with a fingerprint to prove his identity. There were 3 or 4 stations available to people.

The world is going to have some sort of digital recognition / ID - eventually that will move to “charagma” (Greek for tattoo).


66 posted on 03/04/2019 12:09:27 PM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: SaveFerris

Mystery Babylon is Rome. After the Ezekiel 38 War there will be very few Muslims left alive. The RCC will unite with the other apostate churches such as LDS and JW to form the One World Religion under the antiChrist.


67 posted on 03/04/2019 12:15:22 PM PST by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: SVTCobra03

agreed (FReepmail)


68 posted on 03/04/2019 12:19:12 PM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: SaveFerris

And then there is the push for nation-wide DNA collection.


69 posted on 03/04/2019 12:50:14 PM PST by Maudeen (JESUS IS THE ANSWER . . . NOW WHAT IS THE QUESTION?)
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To: Maudeen

Yep. I just had to do a drug test for a job (still there are other aspects to actually going to work). I probably just got joined into the system, lol.


70 posted on 03/04/2019 1:07:53 PM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: SaveFerris
“...The world is going to have some sort of digital recognition / ID - eventually that will move to “charagma” (Greek for tattoo).”

Perhaps soon...

This is going global quickly. Link it with a “Mark” or “Chip” and the Antichrist economic system could be up and running expediently.

(snip)”...China’s social credit system is here to stay and there’s no turning back the clock. It’s not the first and as the model proves over time its effectiveness, we can expect even more countries to adopt similarly designed systems based on behavioural economics to nudge behaviour…”

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/commentary/china-social-credit-system-points-system-fico-schuba-11302770

71 posted on 03/04/2019 1:35:07 PM PST by 444Flyer (John 3 Revelation 20 Joshua 24:15 Pick a side...)
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To: SaveFerris
Matthew 10:34:

Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

There is no 'peace' outside of the Prince of Peace.

72 posted on 03/04/2019 1:44:54 PM PST by 444Flyer (John 3 Revelation 20 Joshua 24:15 Pick a side...)
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To: SVTCobra03
Flags of world nations flying at RLDS (old name) temple in Missouri:


73 posted on 03/04/2019 2:48:50 PM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: 444Flyer; All
The systems I saw in the commercial looked something like this. I'm still searching for the commercial. These are available for sale - $158 each - wow that's cheap



This thing is small - cell phone-sized - the commercial I saw - the screens were like modern TV displays / monitors - turned sideways - IOW much larger. I should be able to find that commercial before too long.
74 posted on 03/04/2019 2:59:47 PM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: robowombat

If you ignore who Christ says He is, you are not a Christian.

I work in a hospital, but that doesn’t make me a doctor.


75 posted on 03/05/2019 9:40:02 AM PST by HeadOn (Just let me do my job...)
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To: SaveFerris; All
Oh yeah Brother it's getting closer

All kinds of tech to be used for The Mark

King James Bible- Rev 22:20
He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly.
Amen.
Even so, come, Lord Jesus

76 posted on 03/10/2019 9:54:34 PM PDT by Syncro (Facts is Facts)
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To: Syncro

Post-tribber Irvin Baxter is certainly on this peace deal thing.

His show from 9 days ago talked about it.

He gets a few things right about the Tribulation and then some wrong. Of course he’s trying to make it fit his post-trib views.

I’m sure the secular world, like this professor, would like to see a “peace deal” - they just don’t know what it’s going to bring. They’ll find out when they get a “peace deal” though.


77 posted on 03/10/2019 10:01:42 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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