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Venezuelans regret giving up guns
wnd.com ^ | 2/25/2019 | unknown

Posted on 02/26/2019 7:26:43 AM PST by rktman

Critics of the Second Amendment often misunderstand it as primarily a right to hunt and ward off burglars. But America’s Founders viewed the right to bear arms chiefly as a check against government tyranny.

That latter purpose makes perfect sense to at least one Venezuelan who has fled his homeland in the wake of its disastrous socialist experiment.

“Guns would have served as a vital pillar to remaining a free people, or at least able to put up a fight,” said Javier Vanegas, 28, a Venezuelan teacher of English now exiled in Ecuador, in an interview with Fox News.

“The government security forces, at the beginning of this debacle, knew they had no real opposition to their force. Once things were this bad, it was a clear declaration of war against an unarmed population,” Vanegas said.

In 2012, President Hugo Chavez pushed through his rubber-stamp legislature the Control of Arms, Munitions and Disarmament Law, noted the Truth About Guns blog.

The law, which was generally supported by the public at the time, stripped Venezuelan citizens of every firearm and round of ammunition they owned.

Chavez’s handpicked successor, Nicolas Maduro, has blocked most of the food and medicine supplied by the United States and other countries from crossing the borders with Brazil and Colombia.

At least four people were killed last weekend and hundreds wounded in clashes with protesters and volunteers trying to unload truckloads of aid.

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: 2a; banglist; kaba; venezuela
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To: OKSooner; cornfedcowboy
What Good Can a Handgun Do Against an Army.....?
61 posted on 02/26/2019 9:09:03 AM PST by PROCON ('Progressive' is a Euphemism for Totalitarian)
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To: PROCON

Gracias.


62 posted on 02/26/2019 9:10:17 AM PST by OKSooner (Green New Deal: "If you like your air conditioner you can keep your air conditioner.")
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To: rktman

We need to swap OUR teachers for theirs... the Venezuelan teachers have the wisdom of actual experience with socialism and will be very happy with cafeteria food.


63 posted on 02/26/2019 9:29:54 AM PST by jimmygrace
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To: rktman

But you “feel” safe, right?


64 posted on 02/26/2019 9:38:05 AM PST by WKUHilltopper
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To: WKUHilltopper
Oh, heck yeah. 👹👍🏼
65 posted on 02/26/2019 9:58:40 AM PST by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: rktman

I am 100% certain that I will never regret giving up guns. If I ever do give up my guns, it will be because I’m dead - no regrets. I also raised all of my kids well. They will be immune to that regret too.


66 posted on 02/26/2019 10:00:13 AM PST by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: rktman

You can’t have Democide- death by government unless you have gun confiscation.

It is interesting to consider similar populations (geographically, not religious) with different results. I’m sure that the Kurds and Chechens know of the Armenian experience in the early 20th century.


67 posted on 02/26/2019 10:00:32 AM PST by grumpygresh (The only check on a rogue DOJ and FBI is jury nullification.)
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To: dp0622

You could learn.........


68 posted on 02/26/2019 10:02:51 AM PST by Osage Orange (Whiskey Tango Foxtrot)
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To: Osage Orange

If I had to I would but I’m hoping that the rebellion isn’t relying too much on 50 year old, very out of shape men to win the country back!

I could be used as fodder :)


69 posted on 02/26/2019 10:07:07 AM PST by dp0622 (The Left should know if.. Trump is kicked out of office, it is WAR!)
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To: grumpygresh

You mean the non-existent genocide?


70 posted on 02/26/2019 10:09:53 AM PST by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: dp0622
You're a man ain't ya!!?? Hehe..

I can snipe....and if some Somali dumbass...can shoot an RPG...I could do it...3 times faster.

71 posted on 02/26/2019 10:11:56 AM PST by Osage Orange (Whiskey Tango Foxtrot)
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To: rktman

I’m not giving up my guns..they’ll have to pry it out of my cold dead hands...


72 posted on 02/26/2019 10:15:45 AM PST by Deplorable American1776 (Proud to be a DeplorableAmerican with a Deplorable Family...even the dog is, too. :-))
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To: Osage Orange

lol

As far as being a man, well there’s pants in my closet :)

Sniping helps!


73 posted on 02/26/2019 10:16:15 AM PST by dp0622 (The Left should know if.. Trump is kicked out of office, it is WAR!)
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To: Pollster1

I think it was Walter Williams who wrote: “If they have Williams’ guns, you will know that Williams is dead.”


74 posted on 02/26/2019 10:17:34 AM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: dp0622

I’m going on 68, and am pretty damn fit for my age. I’ll put up a fight, even though the odds are against me. Remember Churchill’s words:

“If you will not fight for the right when you can easily win without bloodshed; if you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not too costly, you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance for survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves.”


75 posted on 02/26/2019 10:20:18 AM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: dp0622
Well...I know CPR.

I could whip a stitch in ya....

With my glasses on...I can shoot.

There are things that gnaw on a man worse than dying...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYyumFphtEQ

76 posted on 02/26/2019 10:43:02 AM PST by Osage Orange (Whiskey Tango Foxtrot)
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To: meadsjn

Yup.


77 posted on 02/26/2019 11:27:14 AM PST by Big Red Badger (Despised by the Despicable!)
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To: dp0622
If the tyranny involved the army we would need anti aircraft weapons among other things.

Not necessarily. That's the fallacy of the "you can't use AR-15s to beat a modern army" argument. You don't have to defeat them. Just be impossible to govern.

No one in modern times has ever attempted to subdue with force a population as well-armed as ours. I think there's a reason for that.
78 posted on 02/26/2019 11:29:00 AM PST by The Pack Knight
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To: BenLurkin
A good explanation from before the Second Amendment was written, with Madison allaying fears of the proposed federal government's power to raise armies under the new Constitution by pointing out that the federal government could never raise an army powerful enough to impose its will on the American people:

Extravagant as the supposition is, let it however be made. Let a regular army, fully equal to the resources of the country, be formed; and let it be entirely at the devotion of the federal government; still it would not be going too far to say, that the State governments, with the people on their side, would be able to repel the danger. The highest number to which, according to the best computation, a standing army can be carried in any country, does not exceed one hundredth part of the whole number of souls; or one twenty-fifth part of the number able to bear arms. This proportion would not yield, in the United States, an army of more than twenty-five or thirty thousand men. To these would be opposed a militia amounting to near half a million of citizens with arms in their hands, officered by men chosen from among themselves, fighting for their common liberties, and united and conducted by governments possessing their affections and confidence. It may well be doubted, whether a militia thus circumstanced could ever be conquered by such a proportion of regular troops. Those who are best acquainted with the last successful resistance of this country against the British arms, will be most inclined to deny the possibility of it. Besides the advantage of being armed, which the Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation, the existence of subordinate governments, to which the people are attached, and by which the militia officers are appointed, forms a barrier against the enterprises of ambition, more insurmountable than any which a simple government of any form can admit of. Notwithstanding the military establishments in the several kingdoms of Europe, which are carried as far as the public resources will bear, the governments are afraid to trust the people with arms. And it is not certain, that with this aid alone they would not be able to shake off their yokes. But were the people to possess the additional advantages of local governments chosen by themselves, who could collect the national will and direct the national force, and of officers appointed out of the militia, by these governments, and attached both to them and to the militia, it may be affirmed with the greatest assurance, that the throne of every tyranny in Europe would be speedily overturned in spite of the legions which surround it.


- James Madison (as "Publius"), Federalist No. 46

I think there is still truth to this today so long as we remain armed, even if we no longer have a militia of the type discussed by Madison.

Also, note one of my favorite quotes I use to respond to those who compare us to other countries with more gun control: ". . . the advantage of being armed, which Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation . . ." That we are armed is one of the unique and exceptional things about us that sets us apart from all other nations.
79 posted on 02/26/2019 11:49:17 AM PST by The Pack Knight
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To: 10mm

“,,, only killed Communists.”

That’s A Bingo!


80 posted on 02/26/2019 1:35:20 PM PST by Big Red Badger (Despised by the Despicable!)
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