Posted on 02/14/2019 4:44:58 AM PST by real saxophonist
Have Beer, Lose Guns – Are Anti-Gun-Rights Warriors Drunk With Power?
Ammoland Inc. Posted on February 13, 2019 by Alan Korwin
Have Beer, Lose Guns – Are Anti-Gun-Rights Warriors Drunk With Power? U.S.A. –-(Ammoland.com)- In the incessant effort to disarm the American public and turn the nation socialist—evincing a design to reduce us under absolute despotism—Congress and the states, with mass media and misguided countrymen in tow, have been using the joy of alcohol to take your firearms.
They have come a long way, boiling the frog slowly under the radar, but you and I know it. Permits for carrying firearms discreetly already come with a ban on possession in places serving alcohol. That’s almost anywhere decent you might want to eat. There’s no inherent danger in owning sidearms in a restaurant, especially if you don’t consume alcohol (the typical requirement), but the gun ban tied to the eating ban is now virtually complete across the nation. Several narrow exceptions exist.
We were all taught that guns and alcohol don’t mix. It’s a reasonable safety rule. How many of you remember a traditional rural Christmas, where after a giant family meal with plenty of wine or whatever, a bottle followed the men and their shootin’ irons to mix on the back porch for some plinking, cigars, and talk unfit for polite company? People survived it and grew up healthy and strong. I’m just sayin’. In a truly free society, you’re responsible for yourself. No blood no foul. Anti-rights advocates don’t buy any of that.
A close parallel and “good next step” to the no-drinking restaurant ban for antis is the frequent demand to treat guns the same way we treat vehicles. Aside from the obvious license and registration elements getting all the attention, the restriction on drinking and driving is an underplayed back story here.
If you can’t operate a car with a blood-alcohol level of 0.08, easily reached after a few beers, how could you possibly justify possession of “dangerous loaded handguns” under similar intoxication? This point has morphed into the carry-permit schemes of some states, further poisoning those already gross paperwork-permit infringements.
By extension, the point goes much further. However, it just hasn’t been discussed openly, for fear of tipping the socialists’ hands. If a person is watching sports at home, and consuming as much beer or other adult beverages as the game demands, why wouldn’t the drunk driving rules apply to firearm possession indoors? Don’t laugh; these rules already exist—in a slightly different form at home.
Remember, the left and their disarmament cohorts have dreamed up other absolutely outrageous schemes for justifying “legally” taking away your guns, remember? The guns are made of the wrong materials (they melt too easily), the magazines are the wrong size (they hold as much ammo as police think they need for crime prevention and self-defense), the hunting scopes are really sniper scopes, the guns are too inexpensive, have the wrong safeties, aren’t on the list, you know the litany. It doesn’t end.
So how can “we” (the collective socialist “we” where government is “we” enforcing its notions through the use of armed force) allow “you” (the proletariat under control for the good of society) be “allowed” (that dangerous word, allowed, implying your freedom exists because someone else says so, not because you are free to act), to possess arms at the same time you possess enough alcohol to incapacitate the Coast Guard? The left wing already has announced plans to limit how much ammo you ought to be “allowed” to have. A full gallon of bourbon?
If you suspect regulating your alcohol possession, and tying it to your gun possession seems far-fetched, think of it in context of the larger issue of mental health and capacity to safely own and operate, well, anything.
The rules already exist, at the federal and state level for banning guns based on possession of other inebriants, Schedule 1 drugs. Work is underway to add people to the banned list based on prior legal prescriptions. The attempt was made to ban gun ownership based on a secret police list (secret police? in America?) for air travel (which failed, fortunately, for now).
You are also banned from gun possession if anyone living in your home is a prohibited possessor because that person can’t have access to even a single round of ammunition. So any gun or ammo out in the open, where it might be used, puts you in felony violation of the law (without any harm or actual malum in se crime done). But wait, there’s more. We’re way beyond beer here.
While you can’t walk into a restaurant in many states to eat with your discreetly carried sidearm, even if you don’t imbibe, you can walk into a convenience store and buy a 24-pack of beer and two-fifths of bourbon to wash it all down, while armed to the teeth. You know where that booze is going—down the gullet. How can polite society allow that? (Now the left is polite?)
Worse still, if you’re dead drunk (still legal) and you legitimately shoot a murderous intruder in your home, can prosecutors enter your blood alcohol into the record and use it against you? Sure they can, there’s no protection against this—but maybe there should be some. “§101: Blood-alcohol level is not a factor in justifiable self-defense if no tangential harm is done.” That’s good law. How about if you’re out in public at the time? “See §101.”
Public drunkenness is illegal, but a difficult charge if you’re not exhibiting symptoms. But if you’re armed and drunk, well, it depends. Which state? Got a permit? Who’s the prosecutor? The left would love to make a case for: “got alcohol – no guns” because anything that disarms the public is a good idea (to them).
A national blood-alcohol limit on being able to carry—the step before banning possession, or even ownership, for people in possession of dangerous inebriants (beer), is in their playbook, and already on the playing field. Arizona’s laws, like some states, makes the alcohol driving charge stick if “impaired to the slightest degree.” Yes, that’s the rule.
Next, we’re going to look at the medical-marijuana craze sweeping the country. That one is already on the books. Your pot card, and your gun card (which libertarians warned you about), both databased, are easily compared. Barack Hussein Obama knew that when he said, sure, go ahead, enjoy your dope as I did back in college, we’re not going to do anything about that. Yet.
Alan Korwin, a national columnist, award-winning author of 14 books and veteran of more than 1,000 radio and TV interviews, runs Bloomfield Press, which distributes the new 2019 Traveler’s Guide to the Firearm Laws of the 50 States. He can be reached at GunLaws.com where you can read more common sense like you just read.
A lot of shootings take place at fast food shops and at the Waffle House after 10 PM. I always sit facing the door.
If I want a beer with dinner at a restaurant, I have to lock up my pistol in my car.
Next thing you know...have sex, lose guns.
Well, that kinda depends on the type of sex. Currently ‘approved’. That probably leaves most of us out.
No ... only if the intercourse is with your lawful, opposite-sex spouse. Buggery with strangers will be just fine ... perhaps even mandatory.
For many years, I was a lease warden on a 9,000 acre hunting lease. I can tell you that while in our state of sobriety we may all agree that guns and alcohol don’t mix. But, that doesn’t mean that some beer guzzling idiot siting around a campfire with his peers won’t suddenly pick up his gun and announce “Hold ma beer n’ watch this!” I’ve seen people in this scenario accidentally shot on TWO different occasions, and several near misses where alcohol was concerned.
I don’t like the gun-grabbers using this as a tool, but if they dig deep enough, they could make this an effective one.
I think much of this depends on the state.
Alabama is very gun-friendly, or I should say self-defense friendly.
https://www.nraila.org/gun-laws/state-gun-laws/alabama/
STATE CONSTITUTIONAL PROVISION — Article 1, Section 26
(a) Every citizen has a fundamental right to bear arms in defense of himself or herself and the state. Any restriction on this right shall be subject to strict scrutiny.
(b) No citizen shall be compelled by any international treaty or international law to take an action that prohibits, limits, or otherwise interferes with his or her fundamental right to keep and bear arms in defense of himself or herself and the state, if such treaty or law, or its adoption, violates the United States Constitution.
I’m pretty sure Ohio is that way as well.
Sadly, the great, grand, majority of these events (on the First 48 show, and in most of real life) are by blacks against other blacks, either in the strip clubs, drug events, getting into it with someone over "turf." Blacks murder far, far, far more of their kind than whites, browns, yellows or reds kill them. These murders are by people WITHOUT carry permits.
Last week I watched a program on one of the Discovery channels regarding illegally manufactured firearms. These are made in countries like the Philippines, with false serial numbers and sold in the USA. They are sent in on shipping containers. These guns are made by Tom, Dick or Harry out in the jungles, sold to a guy in town who puts the finish on the gun, and he then sells them. The maker in the jungle sold them for like $150 to the finisher guy, who sells them to the transporters for $300 and the weapons are sold in the US west coast for like $6-800 and on the east coast of the USA for over $1,000. These guns are not purchased by honest, legal gun owners. They are purchased by crooks, drug dealers, etc. That programs showed the thugs needing the guns to do "hits" on someone and the actual selling of a gun to a guy, who then went out and murdered a man, and tossed the gun into the river. Spent like $800 for his murder, the cost of the gun.
They will un-arm honest, law a biding citizens and the criminals will still be heavily armed buns. This is what we face folks.
If you have self defense insurance such as USCCA, CCW Safe, NRA Carry Guard etc read the fine print. I think you’ll find a clause which negates the contract if you have the slightest bit of alcohol in you at the time of the incident. I called to clarify if this applies if you are at home and are having a few say at a Super Bowl party. I was assured that it only applies if you are out and about. But I don’t trust the bastards.
Right on point - the writer paints with a pretty broad brush, IMO. Below is the wording from the Oklahoma carry law known as the Self-Defense Act:
Provided however, a person possessing a valid handgun license pursuant to the provisions of the Oklahoma Self-Defense Act may carry the concealed or unconcealed handgun into any restaurant or other establishment licensed to dispense low-point beer or alcoholic beverages where the sale of low-point beer or alcoholic beverages does not constitute the primary purpose of the business.
The writer would have you believe that walking into a Chili's restaurant with your firearm carried per state law is a quick ticket to the Graybar Hotel since they serve beer, wine, and mixed drinks. This is not universally true, as shown above, and every prudent firearm carrier should be intimately familiar with state law so as to not run afoul of the law. This becomes particularly important when traveling and taking advantage of reciprocity because what is legal in your state may not be when visiting Aunt Sally back in the old home place and going out to eat.
From my time in, I don’t think there is ANY amount of alcohol that would be enough “to incapacitate the Coast Guard.”
USCG ET3
1971-1975
This is my rifle, and this is my gun...
I remember that.
Of course...that would be offensive to today’s cupcake enlistees. Some poor drill instructor or company commander would lose their job over that little bit of instruction.
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