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Democrats roll out bill to let Americans buy into Medicare at 50
The Washington Times ^ | February 13, 2019 | Tom Howell Jr.

Posted on 02/13/2019 10:43:41 AM PST by jazusamo

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To: JoSixChip

I’m in the same boat as you. Retired and 63 (64 next month) with a nice nest egg but no income.

I looked into obamacare last Fall and qualified for all kinds of subsidies. Made even decent policy coverage reasonably priced.

I didn’t bother taking any of them, though. I checked with every doctor I’ve visited over the past few years and NONE took either of the plans offered in my county. A couple of the billing people for doctors I’ve been going to for years told me flat out I would have a really hard time finding any doctors anywhere near me that took these policies. They said the only doctors they knew of that did were located in the seedier parts of the city near me.

So I’m w/o insurance this year and waiting for Medicare next year. But, as others have mentioned earlier in this thread, some of my main doctors won’t take that either!


61 posted on 02/13/2019 12:04:42 PM PST by Breyean
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To: jazusamo

We should also be able to “opt-out.”


62 posted on 02/13/2019 12:05:41 PM PST by Slyfox (Not my circus, not my monkeys)
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To: jazusamo
Before buying into the health care tyranny Democrats want to impose on our freedom, perhaps a few words from President Reagan might be helpful to families and friends who are cautiously accepting of Ocasio-Cortez and the Democrats here.
63 posted on 02/13/2019 12:08:08 PM PST by loveliberty2 (`)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
Treasury prints “it” based on bonds they buy via a Feds/3rd party.

The problem occurs when the Treasury is forced to print “currency” not back by bonds. This measure will probably be enacted within 8 years or so by a Congress and a Presidency made up of AOC imitators put into power by the will of the majority.

We are running dangerous deficits and all anybody can say is “the Wall”. Trump needs to veto the compromise and say start cutting or we are screwed.

64 posted on 02/13/2019 12:08:55 PM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: jazusamo

Yup.

I’m in that age bracket and have plenty of health issues and and my private ins is working just fine, thankyouverymuch.


65 posted on 02/13/2019 12:12:40 PM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith......)
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To: rollo tomasi

And if that does happen what exactly is the rest of the world going to do about it?

The logical thing would be to pick another reserve currently and quit treating the dollar as though it had any value.

Those things will not happen. Because as bad a shape as we are in, everybody else is worse. People standing in feces up to their necks will not make waves.

At some sick, perverted level AOC and the dweebs in Congress know this.


66 posted on 02/13/2019 12:13:44 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Yes, when you can just print money with impunity, and it makes no difference whatsoever, you don’t even need things like budgets...just authorizations to spend are good enough.

Of course, that time off into the future when America has continued to deteriorate and socialize itself into complete and utter complacency, when the dollar is no longer the world’s dominant reserve currency, the fall will be truly epic and spectacular like nothing else the world has ever seen. It will truly be total Armageddon in America when that day comes.


67 posted on 02/13/2019 12:21:23 PM PST by Scott from the Left Coast (You may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you...)
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To: jazusamo

Uh we already buy into Medicare. It’s called payroll deductions at the point of a gun.


68 posted on 02/13/2019 12:22:57 PM PST by Hyman Roth
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To: loveliberty2
Subsidizing health care (Our system now) is just as economically idiotic as “socialistic” health care.

The technological boom that is extremely expensive due to a ton of variables concerning cost is way beyond the average Americans' means, yet they constantly vote for deficit measures to get that MRI/CAT Scan/mending broken bones/Partial pay for Johnny's or Jane's cough/Open heart surgery/Endoscopes/Dialysis treatments x3 a week/Transplants/Viagra and the rest of those pharmaceuticals/etc...

You need to create a sensible monetary exchange regarding fee for service and use some type of investment fund to generate compound interest or just go without treatment. If not, then a single payer system (Socialize Medicine) with an aggressive rationing system will be the only alternative. Insurance premiums and deductibles (Employer substitution, they pay taxes too) at rates that should be adjusted to the cost are not economically feasible to the majority of Americans. Make your choice.

69 posted on 02/13/2019 12:27:53 PM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

I’m all for it. I have to pay $933 a month for one person out of pocket to keep the same plan I had while working before being laid off.


70 posted on 02/13/2019 12:34:21 PM PST by marajade (Skywalker)
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To: jazusamo

Well if they are going to do it I hope they hurry it up. I starting collecting my SS last year at age 63. I’m waiting till I turn 65 so I can get my cataracts removed.

My current Health insurance is from NYC and not too many providers in Pennsylvania will accept it.


71 posted on 02/13/2019 12:39:12 PM PST by katnip
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To: Buckeye McFrog
You would go Weimar (Already there cultural wise) in a hurry if the rest of the world called our bluff.

We are on the petrodollar but that is nearing the end due to attractive alternatives with emerging economies. Going to gold or whatever is long past that time due "prospect" of manipulation through foreign mines we have no control over. The US is painted in a corner because we spend way too much and run deficits that are economically insane. That is ground zero of our economic problems, our monetary system is the least of our problems.
72 posted on 02/13/2019 12:40:12 PM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: IamConservative
At 58, I have plenty $$ to live off of, but no idea what my healthcare costs might be.

If you are adventurous you can retire a few years to another country, but if you want health insurance there you have to sign up before 60. That door is closing for you. You can always come back for the "free" Medicare some day however you may find that the cost of paying cash for health care in many countries is less than the deductible you will pay for Medicare, and as a profitable customer you may get better treatment there.

73 posted on 02/13/2019 12:54:05 PM PST by Reeses (A journey of a thousand miles begins with a government pat down.)
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To: jazusamo

What it does is allow folks with preexisting conditions to buy into medicare at a fixed premium that does not reflect the
cost of that preexisting condition that will have to be treated by the government plan. No doubt it will add to the debt with government subsidizing the cost to cover them. Typical free pony stuff from the Dems


74 posted on 02/13/2019 12:56:20 PM PST by chuckee
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To: rollo tomasi

I guess we’ll just have to respectfully disagree.

I am betting that when the moment of insolvency comes the rest of the world will be too paralyzed by butt-puckering terror to call our bluff. Our sudden collapse would trigger a domino effect of worldwide economic and social collapse that would quickly spiral out of control.

Our sleazy elites have the world by the shorthairs, my FRiend.


75 posted on 02/13/2019 12:59:26 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Buckeye McFrog

So you think our spending is not out-of-control? If so, out-of-control has an ugly end.

Also, our economy is an anchor in a global point of view. Of course foreign countries will go through tribulations as well if deficits/spending sink our economy. This is where our superior fire power will come in handy ;-)


76 posted on 02/13/2019 1:14:24 PM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: rollo tomasi

“It’s not a lie, if you believe it.”

- George Costanza

What I’m saying is that every country on earth will believe the lie because the alternative is unthinkable.


77 posted on 02/13/2019 1:41:55 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: jazusamo

Why would medicare be cheaper than private insurance? They have to cover the same conditions, in the same way, and they are dealing with the same risk pool.

The difference is that Medicare gets to force practitioners to take lower reimbursements, and also gets to ration care in a way private insurers are not allowed to.

And yes, people should not retire at 50 if they can’t afford health insurance. We shouldn’t subsidize them.


78 posted on 02/13/2019 2:03:18 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: jazusamo

Meanwhile, the ACA was supposed to cover 100% of americans, and it only managed to make it 40% of the way, mostly because they increased medicaid coverage; outside of medicaid, the ACA didn’t actually increase ANYBODY’S health insurance coverage, at all.


79 posted on 02/13/2019 2:04:23 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: jazusamo

This is just another backdoor attempt to ease into single payer health insurance. They think people do not see it.


80 posted on 02/13/2019 2:17:08 PM PST by maxwellsmart_agent (I)
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