Posted on 02/13/2019 7:59:13 AM PST by SeekAndFind
Just when you thought it was safe to share your favorite childhood classics with your kids, the New York Times goes and ruins it with an article called "The Gay History of America's Classic Children's Books," by Jesse Green. From Frog and Toad to Goodnight Moon, we are told that our beloved stories are awash in "a secret language of queer compassion." I'm always bemused when people claim that beloved fictional characters are gay. A few months ago it was "Sesame Street's" Ernie and Bert, whose closet door was abruptly slammed shut by their creator, Frank Oz, after he got annoyed by the nattering Nancies who would not stop speculating about the hand puppets' sexuality.
And yet, the speculators keep it up. It always seems rude to do this to beloved characters, especially when each character means something different to each reader. Harriet the Spy (who I've now been informed is a lesbian or something) was one of my favorites. It's not just queer kids who are left out and in need of compassion, as this author suggests, but any kid who is deemed "different," as I was for being a gregarious know-it-all who liked school and would randomly break out into song. It was a rough beginning. The narrative that only queer kids need compassion is tiring. All children need someone to make them feel special. #AllKidsMatter.
The other bothersome thing about this particular story is that Green claims that all of the authors of the books in question were gay while admitting that some were "in the closet." If that's the case, what business does Green have outing them like this? We live in a time when everyone and their emotional support animal has some queer identity, complete with preferred pronouns, plastered all over their social media. We couldn't avoid it if we tried. But there are people who prefer not to shout their sexual preferences to the world and just want to live quiet lives. Outing people who haven't outed themselves is rude. Green writes,
[T]hey won Caldecott and Newbery Medals for books that, without ever directly speaking their truth, sent it out in a secret language that was somehow accessible to those who needed to receive it. And not just to them. These works comforted the proto-gay but also tenderized the proto-straight in a way no other literature could.
SPOT ON!
In no book, paper, thesis, T.V., documentary has Lewis Carrol EVER been put forth as Jack The Ripper and I should know, because I’ve read or seen ALL of these!
I'm not sure where I saw it, but there was supposedly a theory that Carroll was the Ripper. At any rate, I wasn't endorsing it--merely showing how one can read anything they want into children's books.
Professor Dodgson must have been a strange one. A math freak egghead who liked to take photos of naked young girls (apparently without ever abusing or harming them in any way) who was simultaneously a minor order clergyman in the Anglican Church. He may have even been doctrinally orthodox (unlike L. Frank Baum, the [Republican] anti-chrstian new-ager proto-feminist).
Nineteenth Century American politics were a hoot!
The Wizard of Oz? Totally gay, at least the movie version.
That’s funny because I always thought YOU were Jack the Ripper.
I can see the geniuses are out tonight!
I was looking at one really wonderful photo of Alice Lidell - she looked like Louise Brooks in all her come hither beauty. That is enough to send the 21st century puritans into overdrive. Remember the movie with Ian Holm?
yes! (great post)
I am a "RIPPEROLOGIST" and in the more than 1/2 a century of of my interest/study of this topic, I have NEVER, NOT ONCE, NOT FROM BRIT NOR AMERICAN, OR EVEN EUROPEAN SOURCES seen nor heard of this abjectly STUPID suggestion!
First of all, Charles Dodgson was a somewhat eccentric academic who did NOT venture into the slums of London.
Secondly he was in his very late 50s-60s when the Ripper murders took place.
Thirdly, he has less than NO training nor education is surgery, anatomy, nor was he in the Military, and he wasn't ever a butcher!
Lastly, he had a slight, non-athletic body, was deaf in one ear, suffered a severe injury to one of his knees in middle age, and walked with some difficulty. Ergo, overpowering and slicing up a hefty, younger female, and then rapidly fleeing the scene of the crime is just beyond absurd!
One can now read a phone book, evidently, and find "racism", "misogyny","WHITE NATIONALISM", and/or whatever else micro and macro "triggers" idiotic little snowflakes! The there was some moronic prof, who in the 1950s saw homo-eroticism and a cross racial love affair in HUCKLEBERRY FINN.
Dodgson was probably a case of arrested development and asexual. He took a LOT of pictures of children, but also of his famous Pre-Raphaelite artist and literary friends.
What the bleeding heel does ANY of this have to do with 19th century American politics?
Yes, the "geniuses" have crawled out from under a lot of rocks, to post on this thread. LOL
See my post #68.
"DREAMCHILD"? Yes, I remember it.
His photos are gorgeous.
Yes, they are...he was a true artist when it comes to early photography!
I got caught up in them last night. He had a rare talent but so many of those English photographers of the time were good. And English children have always been immensely photogenic. I have several myself that I took during a Christmas parade in Haworth around 2000.
Also he was good friends with quite few of the Pre-Raphaelite artists.
Have you seen his drawings? He did a few for the Alice books, but they weren't used.
Yes, many English children were/are beautiful; I agree. I love all of the very old photos of children; wealthy, upper middle class, and the extremely poor. The ones of the very poor ones are haunting.
I heart Eric idle. Until chapter 22 of his autobiography where he goes off on trump. Still love his comedy.
But Ol Yella...
Kidnapping is a serious offense!
Now, son, effen you gonna correct my syntactical and grammatical errors along with mah split infinitives, we’s gonna open up a shootin’ war. Just a fair warnin’ from your lovin’ maw.
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