Posted on 02/10/2019 10:02:55 PM PST by ConservativeMind
On July 27, 2017, Johnny Wheatcroft was a passenger in a silver Ford Taurus when a pair of Glendale police officers pulled in front them in a Motel 6 parking lot.
The stop was for an alleged turn signal violation.
Minutes later, Wheatcroft was handcuffed lying face down on the hot asphalt on a 108-degree day. He'd already been tased 10 times, with one officer kneeling on his back as another, Officer Matt Schneider, kicked him in the groin and pulled down his athletic shorts to tase him a final time in his testicles, according to a federal lawsuit and body camera footage obtained by ABC15.
The scene was witnessed by his 11- and 6-year-old sons.
Multiple independent law enforcement experts, who agreed to review the incident, said the officers’ conduct was unlawful, potentially criminal, and one of the most cruel and troubling cases of police misconduct they’ve ever seen.
(Excerpt) Read more at abc15.com ...
Let’s see... in a high crime area, guy is all tattooed up, not following the officers commands and being very fidgety. Not that it’s illegal to not identify yourself, but everything mentioned leads to an escalation. There’s participation on both sides and the situation as a whole could’ve been handled better by both parties. There’s always more to the story.
In the midst of a police action insisting upon one’s “rights” and hassling the officer is bound to worsen the situation. Better to go to court and sue for illegal arrest than be an ass and get into an altercation with the police.
The man with the gun and the badge is in control until you get in front of a judge.
You’re absolutely right. Pulled over for a “turn signal infraction” then given the “where are your papers routine” - and he wasn’t driving. Serves the guy right for riding with a driver who fails to use her turn signal properly.
Good God...!
No. They found meth.
Gee, when you have one officer knocked out cold and the passenger continues to fight, I suppose you let them all go.
The cops may have gone over the top, but they are human. We expect better of them, but tasering is better than what used to happen, when people were beaten down with night sticks.
It was a DWI check. Cops pick insignicant little discrepancies to go sniff for booze. I’ve been pulled late at night for crossing a white line on the shoulder. I don’t drink. Roll down the window and listen for the cop to take a whiff. The smell of alcohol is very strong.
And what country are you from? Police [are supposed to] have this thing called Probable Cause. Riding with a person who fails to signal a turn is not probable cause for electric shock therapy.
One thing that absolutely blows me away is that cops - especially those of the federal variety - have looser rules of engagement than soldiers in combat. Trust me, a soldier who had done to a detained combatant what those cops did to an American citizen would face a court martial. Doubt me? Do just a little bit of research. Hint: Lon Horiuchi...
Lol, I concur. One is either for civilization or against it.
All that matters is that the cop went home safe. /sheldon
Did you see all of the video? If someone is stopped by the police they need to do what the cop tells him/her to do. If the person resists detainment/arrest, repeatedly disobeys instructions, keeps reaching for something(which could be a gun) and/or takes a swing at or kicks a cop, he’s going to be roughed up. It sounds like the perp was on drugs, kicking and fighting after multiple tases.
Well, for my part (and my part only; let every man suit his own desires) I'm not going to stand on my rights to the point where violence is the result. If a cop infringes my rights, there's a time and a place to seek redress. And I'm certainly not going to engage in brinksmanship, as this victim apparently did, with an authority who has the power to injure me, or worse.
> with an authority who has the power to injure me, or worse.
They do not lawfully have that power. What you are describing is fear of arbitrary violence from unaccountable tyrants.
That gets you tazed everywhere, including in the balls, at least 11 times.
It was a pointless torturefest.
I know that, dammit. But unless you want to carry a weapon and get into a gunfight with them every time you disagree with their point-of-view, it's best to comply at the moment and seek your remedies later, in a less violent way. There is zero percentage in arguing with a cop at the point where he's confronting you. He's got the badge, he's got the gun and he has the power of society behind him.
Got pulled over one night on I-10 at City of Junction. I was going West. One the Eastbound was a Sheriff with someone pulled over. The grass median is about 200+ wide there. I check lighting on the car every time I get gas.
I drive on and just after passing the SD the emergency lights go out on his unit and I see him crossing the grass median and pull on the Westbound behind Me. I’m 2 exits (5 miles) from home. He comes flying up behind Me with the Cherries Flashing. So I pull over and wait- window open, car shut off, still wearing My seatbelt, DL & Insurance in hand with both hands on the steering wheel at 10 & 2.
He comes up to My window blabing the usual talk as I hand him My “papers” and after looking them over realizing that I am a Local and asks if I work ? I tell him Yes- at the Water Treatment Plant for the City of Junction.
Now here it comes: Well Sir the reason I stopped You was your License Plate light is really Dim (not burned out) so since You live here I’ll just give You a verbal warning and please fix that light. He gave back My “papers” and said Goodnight.
I said you too and went on home.
When I got there I set the parking brake and left everything else running or on. I get out, walk to the back AND THE BULB IS ON AND VERY BRIGHT!!!
If I hadn’t had a Junction address I more than likely would have been in jail for some BS Charges.
I knew that bulb was good because I had just gotten gas on the way home while leaving San Antonio an hour ago.
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Not really. The officers told him to stop reaching under the seat. He kept on doing it. So they tried to remove him from the car. He resisted, and kept on resisting. Officers, according to officials, then tried to remove Wheatcroft from the car, so they could maintain a safe eye on him, but Wheatcroft immediately began to resist the officers. Officers then displayed their Tasers and warned Wheatcroft of potential Taser use. Wheatcroft continue to argue, yell, and physically resist the officers' control hold, and as a result of the physical resistance, and officials say the Taser was used in a "drive stun" capacity on Wheatcroft. As officers tried to detain Wheatcroft, police officials say Chapman swung a bag filled with bottled drinks, which struck Officer Lindsey in the head and rendered him unconscious. Officer Schneider then deployed his Taser, striking Wheatcroft. Officer Schneider then asked for additional officers to respond, and when multiple officers arrived at the scene, they tended to Officer Lindsey and helped detain Wheatcroft, as he was continuing to resist officers by kicking and screaming. The adults in the front seat are identified as Shawn Blackburn and Johnny Wheatcroft, and the adult in the back seat is identified as Anya Chapman. After officers made contact with the car, both of them noticed that Wheatcroft was reaching down below the seat, and into a backpack. Wheatcroft also refused to identify himself and failed to obey instructions to stop reaching his hands beneath the seat.
Here is the link
Pocket Taser Gun, A
Great Gift For The Wife?
Anonymous
2-17-6
This was submitted by a guy who purchased his lovely wife a “pocket Taser” for their anniversary. Last weekend I saw something at Larry’s Pistol & Pawn Shop that sparked my interest. The occasion was our 22nd anniversary and I was looking for a little something extra for my wife, Toni. What I came across was a 100,000-volt, pocket/purse-sized taser. The effects of the taser were suppose to be short lived, with no long-term adverse affect on your assailant, allowing her adequate time to retreat to safety.... WAY TOO COOL! Long story short, I bought the device and brought it home. I loaded two triple-a batteries in the darn thing and pushed the button. Nothing! I was disappointed. I learned, however, that if I pushed the button AND pressed it against a metal surface at the same time; I’d get the blue arch of electricity darting back and forth between the prongs. Awesome!!! Unfortunately, I have yet to explain to Toni what that burn spot is on the face of her microwave. Okay, so I was home alone with this new toy, thinking to myself that it couldn’t be all that bad with only two triple-a batteries,... right?
There I sat in my recliner, my cat Gracie looking on intently (trusting little soul) while I was reading the directions and thinking that I really needed to try this thing out on a flesh & blood moving target. I must admit I thought about zapping Gracie (for a fraction of a second) and thought better of it. She is such a sweet cat. But, if I was going to give this thing to my wife to protect herself against a mugger, I did want some assurance that it would work as advertised. Am I wrong? So, there I sat in a pair of shorts and a tank top with my reading glasses perched delicately on the bridge of my nose, directions in one hand, taser in another.
The directions said that a one-second burst would shock and disorient your assailant; a two-second burst was supposed to cause muscle spasms and a major loss of bodily control; a three-second burst would purportedly make your assailant flop on the ground like a fish out of water. Any burst longer than three seconds would be wasting the batteries. All the while I’m looking at this little device measuring about 5” long, less than 3/4 inch in circumference; pretty cute really and loaded with two itsy, bitsy triple-a batteries) thinking to myself, “no possible way!” What happened next is almost beyond description, but I’ll do my best..... I’m sitting there alone, Gracie looking on with her head cocked to one side as to say, “don’t do it master,” reasoning that a one-second burst from such a tiny little ole thing couldn’t hurt all that bad.... I decided to give myself a one-second burst just for the heck of it.
I touched the prongs to my naked thigh, pushed the button, and HOLY MOTHER, WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION@!@$$!% !@*!!! I’m pretty sure Jessie Ventura ran in through the side door, picked me up in the recliner, then body slammed us both on the carpet, over and over and over again. I vaguely recall waking up on my side in the fetal position, with tears in my eyes, body soaking wet, both nipples on fire, testicles nowhere to be found, with my left arm tucked under my body in the oddest position, and tingling in my legs. The cat was standing over me making meowing sounds I had never heard before, licking my face, undoubtedly thinking to herself, “do it again, do it again!” Note: If you ever feel compelled to “mug” yourself with a taser, one note of caution: there is no such thing as a one-second burst when you zap yourself. You will not let go of that thing until it is dislodged from your hand by a violent thrashing about on the floor. A three second burst would be considered conservative. SON-OF-A- ... that hurt like hell!!!
A minute or so later (I can’t be sure, as time was a relative thing at that point), collected my wits (what little I had left), sat up and surveyed the landscape. My bent reading glasses were on the mantle of the fireplace. How did they get up there??? My triceps, right thigh and both nipples were still twitching. My face felt like it had been shot up with Novacaine, and my bottom lip weighed 88 lbs. I’m still looking for my testicles. I’m offering a significant reward for their safe return. Still in shock...
As far as failure to use turn signal or whatever it was goes. I have saw Officers driving police cars who did not use their turn signals when turning.
The country I am from is the one where resisting arrest is a crime punishable by imprisonment.
OMG! You owe me a new keyboard... mine has coffee between the keys.
You gotta warn a brother before you write sumpin dat funny!
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