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More Trump: On Second Thought, Never Mind A DACA-For-Wall Swap
Hotair ^ | 01/31/2019 | Ed Morrissey

Posted on 01/31/2019 12:28:37 PM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: Quality_Not_Quantity

Trump knew DemoKKK rats wouldn’t take the deal. That’s why he offered it.


21 posted on 01/31/2019 1:11:01 PM PST by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: DannyTN

I’m glad Trump did this.
Only one bite at the apple.


22 posted on 01/31/2019 1:27:33 PM PST by griswold3 (Just another unlicensed nonconformist in a dangerous Liberal world.)
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To: SeekAndFind

What happens if SCOTUS ends DACA? Will these illegals then be deported? I sure hope so! Every last one of them. I don’t care their age when they came, I do care that they came illegally, they can discuss that with their parents but it is not our problem. They need to leave.


23 posted on 01/31/2019 1:30:20 PM PST by Reno89519 (No Amnesty! No Catch-and-Release! Just Say No to All Illegal Aliens! Arrest & Deport!)
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To: Quality_Not_Quantity

Petty Pelosi smashing back by de-funding ICE.


24 posted on 01/31/2019 1:32:18 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: Quality_Not_Quantity

N0te all the wailing and gnashing of teeth among a group of freepers when Trump made the offer. Some of us knew better and several said that that deal would never happen. Trump would not have made the offer did he think it would be accepted. Watch Trump overwhelm the Democrats at the SOTU.


25 posted on 01/31/2019 1:37:03 PM PST by arthurus
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To: SeekAndFind

“All of that was true then, and it’s still true today, but now it’s been reduced to ‘speculation’ that Trump might support a deal he flat-out put on the table himself.”

The article fails to mention that Pelosi said she was not interested in DACA. Trump withdrew the offer. He never stipulated to an unlimited time.

The article tries to portray Trump as acting in bad faith in negotiations. That’s a lie. He offered. They refused.

In negotiations one side does not get to claim ALL of the concessions or offers of the other and give NOTHING in return and then claim the other side is acting in bad faith.

The president was helping them out by putting something they claim to want on the table. Turns out there is nothing they want badly enough to allow Trump to build the wall.

But this will backfire on them when he builds the wall without their help and they get NOTHING.

The Democrats claimed that if the government was temporarily reopened they would negotiate. They are not negotiating. They lied. When the government gets shut down again, it is their fault for lying and acting in bad faith.


26 posted on 01/31/2019 1:41:32 PM PST by unlearner (War is coming.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Deport all those nightmares back to their own countries... along with their parents.


27 posted on 01/31/2019 1:41:33 PM PST by dougherty (I saw the angel in the marble and carved until I set him free. - Michelangelo)
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To: SeekAndFind; All

It seems to me that a fundamental tenet of western society and commerce is goodwill. you extend goodwill towards your trading partner and he/she does the same for you. That is a prerequisite for effective dealmaking. If you take away goodwill, then you take away the possibility of making effective deals, because neither party has incentive to deal in good faith. In that situation, the strongest prevails against the weaker adversary. It is an adversarial relationship between the bargaining parties. It seems to me that the Democrats are dealing from a position of weakness and yet they refuse to deal in good faith. That is difficult for me to understand. What is the Democrat endgame? How can they somehow prevail by not dealing in good faith? What am I missing?


28 posted on 01/31/2019 1:47:13 PM PST by SteveH
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To: SeekAndFind

29 posted on 01/31/2019 1:48:08 PM PST by NohSpinZone (First thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers)
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To: arthurus
Watch Trump overwhelm the Democrats at the SOTU.

It would help if the media would give Trump even 10% of the credit due him. But as we all know, that ain't gonna happen.

30 posted on 01/31/2019 1:48:57 PM PST by Quality_Not_Quantity (Even my cat voted Republican)
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To: Jimmy Valentine
The President is whipsawing the DemocRATS and has them off balance.

I don't see much sign that the Democrats are off balance. It's the Senate Republicans who seem paralyzed.

31 posted on 01/31/2019 1:54:03 PM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep ("The rat always knows when he's in with weasels."--Tom Waits)
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To: SeekAndFind

Don’t doubt President Trump. You’ll likely be disappointed.


32 posted on 01/31/2019 1:58:13 PM PST by upchuck (Allowing any legal abortion was a slippery slope. Slide completed. ~ h/t YogicCowboy)
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To: SeekAndFind
Hey, this is hardball negotiations!

Offer up a plum until they walk out that door. Once it closes, offer rescinded.

Prosecutors use that tactic all the time and if it’s good enough for the government prosecutors I can’t imagine why it’s not good enough for the President.

Besides that, most of these guys and gals have already voted as much and more in the past!

Its just Madame “Lucy” (aka Pelosi) and the football, “now you see it, now you don’t,” flexing her testicles.

33 posted on 01/31/2019 1:58:44 PM PST by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: SeekAndFind
President Trump is going to rout the Democrats on the wall issue.

He will proceed with the wall using military assets without a state of emergency.

Democrats will oppose and obstruct so Trump will be forced to declare an emergency

The wall will get built and the Democrats will be left holding the bag with POed constituents wishing for what might have been on DACA and immigration concessions and a host of other agenda issues that they had leverage on in wall negotiations but have lost forever

The wall will get built which is a disaster for Dems because they have made it the metric for success with Trump’s presidency

The wall has broad support and the more they obstruct, the worse things get for them as the old line blue collar and black vote walks and their illegal alien constituency they have calculated is their future gets militant and starts eating them alive

34 posted on 01/31/2019 2:01:24 PM PST by rdcbn
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To: SeekAndFind

He knew they wouldn’t take it. That’s why he offered it. Now the damage to Pelosi is done and it’s off the table.


35 posted on 01/31/2019 2:09:22 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Capitalism produces EVERYTHING Socialists/Communists/Democratic-Socialists wish to "redistribute.")
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To: Eleutheria5

You also don’t mess with a junkyard dog.....


36 posted on 01/31/2019 2:13:41 PM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: ridesthemiles

Junkyard dogs give Trump a wide berth, because they’re smarter than Nancy.


37 posted on 01/31/2019 2:17:03 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: pacificus

I read the article on another forum....pathetic hypothesis. Our President is the consummate deal maker who readily recognizes obstructionism.

My question.....we know what Our President wants...security and safety for all citizens....so, what does botox nan want other than a urinating match?


38 posted on 01/31/2019 2:17:37 PM PST by EODGUY ("You don't have to go home.......but you can't stay here" Joliet Jake)
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To: Pride in the USA

Ignoring the insane spin in the article, this is another bit of very good news today.


39 posted on 01/31/2019 2:33:06 PM PST by lonevoice (diagonally parked in a parallel universe)
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To: unlearner

“...lying and acting in bad faith...”

Common practice for the democrat party....


40 posted on 01/31/2019 2:33:17 PM PST by JBW1949 (I'm really PC....PATRIOTICALLY CORRECT!!!!)
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