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This is just to prove that I'm not just a pro-Rand shill.. I will occasionally balance it out for Freepers. Everyone is allowed a different opinion and its good that we can debate.
1 posted on 01/17/2019 8:23:18 AM PST by RandFan
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We go there so that they don’t come here. It’s that simple.”

G-d is everyone in the military a globalist perpetual war for perpetual peace type. What is simple is not to bother with the woes of less happy lands to start with. If they do attack you make reprisal so ferocious they will shiver at your name or a long, long time.

I know, I spent decades around the military and I was amazed at the number of officers who were truly offended at my ‘crush the bast*rds and then crush them some more’ attitude about war fighting. That to me was very troubling.

2 posted on 01/17/2019 8:28:34 AM PST by robowombat (Orthodox)
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“There are those of us who have sacrificed for our nation, who know the importance of this terrorist threat and the need to stay vigilant,” tweeted Crenshaw, a former Navy SEAL, on Wednesday. “We go there so that they don’t come here. It’s that simple.”

As Rand argued this morning on Fox and Friends... until WHEN?
Is the Middle East going to be any more stable five years from now? Ten? Twenty? A thousand?

And what ever happened to the idea of supporting your President and trusting his instincts (which he’s shown over and over again are SPOT ON, both with what’s right and with public opinion)?

I liked Crenshaw until this.


3 posted on 01/17/2019 8:29:52 AM PST by Pravious
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There are reports that a lot of new congresscritters are CIA. I know Crenshaw in a Navy SEAL, but I wouldn’t be shocked if he were also CIA. Seems like a globalist who likes constant unending war.


6 posted on 01/17/2019 8:37:22 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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Advice to Trump about muslims Rules of Engagement (ROE) is simple. 1) All infidels will be taxed, enslaved, or killed if they don’t convert 2) when the Kafir are conquered the Sunni sect will turn on the Shia sect 3) are you an infidel? In other words, containing Islam in the Middle East denies the first rule as the Kafir can easily avoid the area. Removing US Forces from the Middle East denies them the second ROE. It’s really that simple. Removing muslims embedded here will be a different matter due to their practice of taqiyya, or lying to promote Islam.


7 posted on 01/17/2019 8:40:11 AM PST by RideForever
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"We go there so that they don’t come here. It’s that simple."

...and that STUPID. Perhaps THE DUMBEST 'motto' ever uttered.

They came here because WE LET the 9/11 hijackers come here, with our wide open visa program. We let them STAY here despite the fact that 70% of the 19 had their visas EXPIRE, yet NOT ONE was ever contacted by authorities. WORSE still, 3 of the hijackers with expired visas were DETAINED for traffic offenses...and RELEASED without any checks on their visas. Mohammed Atta himself was not checked after speeding because it was in Palm Beach county which had "sanctuary city" polices against it. We did nothing about the insane number of Muslims taking FLYING lessons -- despite multiple complaints by staff, including the suspicious "we don't need to learn how to land" quips from 2 of them -- because no one wanted to "racially profile."

IF WE HAD 1 MILLION TROOPS in Afghanistan and Syria, how would it have changed what WE DID TO OURSELVES??

#BringThemHome

11 posted on 01/17/2019 8:45:09 AM PST by montag813
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Donald Trump was elected by people who are tired of living in a country run by a Sunni Islamic government. This guy Crenshaw better get with the program.

Lindsey Graham is now a Trump fan, Hillary Clinton is in a mental institution, John McCain is in the ground ... and that globalist "neo-con" rag The Weekly Standard is out of business.

MAGA.

15 posted on 01/17/2019 8:47:50 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("In the time of chimpanzees I was a monkey.")
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“We go there so that they don’t come here. It’s that simple.”

How about they aren’t allowed to come here?


18 posted on 01/17/2019 8:51:00 AM PST by cdcdawg
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Sorry Dan, you were going down a good road until this. If we were serious about this threat here’s my ROE. If terrorists mess with us or our allies we unleash virtual hell on them until the threat is gone, then we bounce the rubble just to make a point. Bullies only understand overwhelming force. We subjugate the enemy until he no longer has a choice to bend to our will. No nation building with people that can’t recognize civilization.


21 posted on 01/17/2019 8:57:33 AM PST by VTenigma (The Democrat party is the party of the mathematically challenged)
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If you’re still fighting a war in a third world shit hole after seventeen years, there is no winning it. Go home.


24 posted on 01/17/2019 9:05:26 AM PST by sparklite2 (Don't mind me. I'm just a contrarian.)
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War is largely asymmetrical today. The bad guys move in small units and mostly do ambushes. We can respond in companies, not divisions.


29 posted on 01/17/2019 9:28:08 AM PST by lurk
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The bottom line, you aren’t really serious about making sure we aren’t “fighting them here” if your centerpiece isn’t a wall, and discussing the 850,000 moslems (and the 16 increase in Saudi student visas) Bush the idiot gave us after 9/11. Then Obama let in another 850,000 and God alone knows how many strolled in over the border.

Add in the ones they whelped after they arrived, and after 9/11 Bush and Obama let in around 2 million of the enemy. This includes a healthy dose of the skinnies from Blackhawk Down.

Moslems are now routinely winning seats in Congress and got rule changes so they can wear headrags in he chambers. They are cussing the president on TV and building no go zones in some states.

So if you tell me our safety depends on an unwinnable war in Afghanistan, I think you are emotionally involved in it at best. He needs to get his head right on this. He’s wrong.


31 posted on 01/17/2019 9:53:11 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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Also, hate to say it. But he is from Houston. I would guess there are some answers to be found in his contributors. Probably some Bush connected pipeline, oil, and contracting companies on the donor list.

Follow the money.


32 posted on 01/17/2019 9:55:21 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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I don’t have an opinion on Dan Crenshaw, but I think I know what he is saying. We need to fight over there. Rand Paul is good, too, but he is more of a libertarian and he doesn’t want troops there. Different opinions...They are still better than Dems...


37 posted on 01/17/2019 10:09:08 AM PST by Deplorable American1776 (Proud to be a DeplorableAmerican with a Deplorable Family...even the dog is, too. :-))
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How about we keep them out of our country.


42 posted on 01/17/2019 10:51:39 AM PST by petitfour (APPEAL TO HEAVEN)
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My problem with Rand Paul is that he voted aye to stay in session. His one nay vote would have given this duly-elected President recess appointment authority.

Rand Paul is not Donald Trump’s ally - nor is Cruz, nor is Lee - no matter what the leftist press says. He is always his own ally, and sometimes the UniParty’s ally.


64 posted on 01/17/2019 4:48:04 PM PST by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - J. R. R. Tolkien)
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Four points.

1.The troops aren’t “Our Kids.” They left kid status behind the moment they signed on the dotted line - an act that arguably made them more fully adult then their nervous-nelly helicopter parents. After that, parents exercise no further control: their offspring are not their personal property.

2. “Boots on the ground” is not the ultimate, decisive way to engage. Quite the opposite: foot troops have the poorest ratio of vulnerability to effectiveness of any force element. Without coordinated support from every other system in the battlespace, they cannot so much as survive. This should have been obvious 100 years ago: no other “lesson of history” from World War One looms larger.

3. American notions of what constitutes “enough time” to wind up a conflict are unrealistically short. We’re up against enemies who think in terms of centuries, perhaps millennia. We’re still two or three generations short of anything they’d think of as “short term.”

4. Americans have it backwards: war is the norm, peace the exception. There is nothing easy about peace - it’s not the resting state of any social system and won’t occur spontaneously. It takes real effort to achieve, and constant attention thereafter.


65 posted on 01/17/2019 6:43:07 PM PST by schurmann
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