[OttawaFreeper]

So tell me that this would be still taking place had John McCain been still alive today.

[equaviator]

The media (and perhaps our enemies) still expect our Commander-in-Chief to announce actual current military strategy and/or tactics of the U.S. as they did with Obama and he did not disappoint them. All Trump has to do is pretend to be announcing strategy and/or tactics and then do something else or maybe nothing and BAM!...His strategy and/or tactic to deceive the enemy succeeds beyond anyone's wildest dreams...except for his.

[OrangeHoof]

We were not at war in Afghanistan since 9-11, unless you mean clandestine stuff. GWB built up to invade Iraq after 9-11 then started on Afghanistan later. (2003-04, if I recall).

Still, for all the anti-Trump bluster, it would be a great talking point if he were the true “peace president” after Obama just mouthed the words. The Trump-haters would love to make the “warmonger” meme stick when, in reality, he’s been just the opposite. Pulling out of those two theatres allows him to redeploy troops to the southern U.S. border and build the wall as part of the national defense effort.

I still say coordinating a wall on Mexico’s *Southern* border that the Mexican government can eventually run would show that the effort is not fueled by racism, improve Mexico’s sovereignty, create Mexican jobs within their borders and blunt the waves of Central Americans trying to reach *our* border. To those without a map, blocking Mexico’s Southern border would be a snap compared to the U.S. - Mexico border.

[BeadCounter]

And not defeat ISIS?

[ClearCase_guy]

The Left has demanding for decades that we:

Stop the constant wars
Get out of the Middle East
Grow the economy to provide opportunities for the poor
Find jobs for African Americans so they can live the American dream
Heck, the Democrats spent years demanding a wall on our southern border

Obama did none of this. Trump is doing all of this.

They want to impeach Trump.