Posted on 01/16/2019 7:34:04 AM PST by 11th_VA
... A new statement from the Office of Management and Budget provides cold comfort for federal bureaucrats worried that furloughs during the partial shutdown could become permanent layoffs, as long as Democrats refuse to give in and fund the border barrier.
There will be no immediate layoffs (what the federal government calls reductions-in-force – or RIFs) if and when the current partial shutdown passes the 30 day mark in 4 more days. As I explained yesterday in Trump's shutdown trap?, federal law requires RIFs when federal employees are furloughed more than 30 days...
This emphatically does not rule out the shutdown trap hypothesis that I presented. ...
As the anonymous Senior Trump Administration official that I quoted yesterday noted, in the absence of bureaucrats with time on their hands and no inclination to help the Trump agenda, a lot is getting accomplished. As that process continues, after the 30-day mark is reached it will be possible to create a downsizing plan, identifying units that could easily get by with a fraction of their current staff, or even be reorganized out of existence.
The head of the OMB, Mick Mulvaney, currently does not have a lot of spare time, serving as head of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau and as interim White House Chief of Staff (a 24/7 job in its own right). But if he is on board (and why wouldn’t he be?), he could well designate a team to prepare quick plans for downsizing, now that the various agencies have seen how little they need so many of the furloughed bureaucrats. That would make the furloughs qualify for RIFs...
(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...
What shutdown?
Agencies have always had the ability to create these plans.
This has nothing to do with the shutdown.
Point being, that 800k not currently being paid doesn’t necessarily indicate 800k who aren’t working or needed and/or generally wanted. There is a lot of deadwood to trim but a lot of it is already funded and being paid, unaffected by the “shutdown”.
The GOP Congress last session couldn’t get the wall funded? Now we have this FUBAR dance with DemRats. Eff them all.
Will watch later, thanks for the link
sorry to burst everyone’s bubble but while there may be some merit to a RIF in some departments I see no reason for anyone here to get excited over the prospect. Organizations will simply refuse to comply, drag their feet or get a judge in Hawaii to enjoin the process. Believing this will happen is the pipe dream. I don’t know the law as well as I should but I doubt it was written with a “shutdown furlough” in mind. That would be position one in the lawsuit.
“hen, let them collect unemployment benefits and go out and find new work just like everyone else.”
And bye bye accrued retirement benefits and health care.
What do you presume it was written for?
I agree, nothing from DC, even with Trump, comes out as hoped for. But I don’t think that high level official wrote his piece as an empty promise (possible, however, if Trump were still somehow deluded about the Dems).
And if it were written at face value, that would be a position that the Trump team has already heavily polled.
Genius! You magnificent bastard!
This stupid idiot Thomas lifson has been pimping this moronic RIF idea for two days in a row so OMB finally sends out a memo saying he doesn’t know what the heck he’s talking about. Which he clearly doesn’t.
Doesn’t stop numerous people just jumping in the bandwagon because they don’t know enough about the federal rules aNd just head first for ny conservative columnist.
Mulvaney has been working on major guv downsizing proposals (that of course went nowhere in Congress) for years now. I would imagine he has worked out the mechanisms for getting them enforced internally. I am not aware of Trump still having overtly Never Trumper cabinet officials (Mrs. McConnell, the Chinese agent, of course has her spot still, but she doesn’t resist overtly) at this point either.
I believe Trump chose MulVaney as his Chief of Staff because of his experience at OMB. I’m trusting ‘the plan’
Most likely an organization that had severe enough cuts they actually had to actually furlough people WITHOUT pay. This isn’t that. There is/was no doubt that people will get paid when this is over. Budgets are the same and life will get back the way it has after every other shutdown.
Sorry, but 2008-2016 taught me to live with disappointment. I don’t see this as any different though for different reasons.
Dems don’t give him the wall and he downsizes government. Trump wins.
Sounds like the Gravy Train is coming to the end of it’s run.
End of the Line.
There is NO Plan.
“There is NO Plan.”
How do you know?
OMB has already said the rule doesn’t apply to emergency furloughs due to a lapse in appropriations.
OPM’s 2015 guidance on shutdown furloughs also clarifies the matter.
“Reductions in force furlough regulations and SES competitive furlough requirements are not applicable to emergency shutdown furloughs because the ultimate duration of an emergency shutdown furlough is unknown at the outset and is dependent entirely on congressional action, rather than agency action,” OPM guidance reads. “The RIF furlough regulations and SES competitive furlough requirements, on the other hand, contemplate planned, foreseeable, money-saving furloughs that, at the outset, are planned to exceed 30 days.”
Because every predicted Plan for the last two years has never happened. It’s all a figment of imagination by wishful thinkers and those who make money by convincing gullible people.
They’ve never had a shutdown at 30 days before.
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