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Trump’s shutdown trap?
American Thinker ^ | 1-15-2019 | Thomas Lifson

Posted on 01/15/2019 7:27:43 AM PST by servo1969

Has President Trump suckered Democrats and the Deep State into a trap that will enable a radical downsizing of the federal bureaucracy? In only five more days of the already-“longest government shutdown in history” (25 days and counting, as of today), a heretofore obscure threshold will be reached, enabling permanent layoffs of bureaucrats furloughed 30 days or more.

Don’t believe me that federal bureaucrats can be laid off? Well, in bureaucratese, a layoff is called a RIF – a Reduction in Force, and of course, it comes with a slew of civil service protections. But, if the guidelines are followed, bureaucrats can be laid off -- as in no more job.

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A reduction in force is a thoughtful and systematic elimination of positions. For all practical purposes, a government RIF is the same thing as a layoff. (snip)

Organizations must stick to predetermined criteria when sorting out what happens to each employee. They must communicate with employees how and why decisions are made. (snip)

In deciding who stays and who goes, federal agencies must take four factors into account:

1. Tenure

2. Veteran status

3. Total federal civilian and military service

4. Performance

Agencies cannot use RIF procedures to fire bad employees.

A lot of procedures must be followed, and merit (“performance”) is the last consideration, but based on the criteria above, employees already furloughed can be laid off (“RIFed”) once they have been furloughed for 30 days or 22 work days):

When agencies furlough employees for more than 30 calendar days or 22 discontinuous work days, they must use RIF procedures.

An employee can be terminated or moved into an available position….


(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: duplicate; furlough; layoff; rif; shutdown; trump
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To: servo1969

Hmmm .... whether “true” (Trump setting a trap) or not, it’s certainly leverage and that’s probably why this ‘senior official’ floated this little tidbit out there. If I was a Fed worker & thought Trump might actually do this & he’s certainly proved that he does have the brass to do something like this, I’d be SCREAMING at Nasty P./Schmucky to make a deal and fund the d@mn wall before I wasn’t just missing a paycheck, but a job!!


21 posted on 01/15/2019 7:57:15 AM PST by Qiviut (McCain & Obama's Legacy in two words: DONALD TRUMP!)
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To: FreedomNotSafety

Gee. I know that, however, the WH does compile a budget and submits to the Congress. It is required and sets a tone. Actually, I have never had any expectations about reducing the size of govt under Trump. I have always thought if we get decent judges, anything else is gravy. So far, so good.


22 posted on 01/15/2019 7:59:01 AM PST by Dave W
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To: servo1969

Tenure ranks ahead of performance.

If you have been a worthless employee for 30 years, you are safe.


23 posted on 01/15/2019 8:00:01 AM PST by UnwashedPeasant (Trump is fixing the world's problems just to distract us from Russia.)
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To: servo1969
If that should happen ...

... it'll be a good time to buy in Annandale and Gaithersburg.

24 posted on 01/15/2019 8:00:09 AM PST by sphinx
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To: servo1969
The problem I see with this Theory is the bosses making the evaluations on their people are probably Hillary voters. If Trump declared every dept had to cut 10%, then somebody has to go, but I'd bet it would be the last remaining conservatives that are cut. Just taking a figure out of the air, I'll bet 80% of DC is Democrat and some of the remaining 20% is communist.

This sounds like one of those stories that Sean Hannity puts out 20 times a year like, The big Kaboom will come when so and so testifies or is appointed in 2 months. In 3 months, still nothing. There are a sizeable amount of people watch porn all day and have been caught and they still get a check. It's easy to catch them, they have been caught, and they will retire there and draw more money than most get working, as they buy their 2nd home in the Dominican Republic.

25 posted on 01/15/2019 8:04:14 AM PST by chuckles
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To: servo1969

Just realized Q hasn’t hinted at this, so if it happens, Q is out of the loop.

Maybe I just missed it.


26 posted on 01/15/2019 8:12:16 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (The internet has driven the world mad.)
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To: TigerClaws

“Downsize the “non essential.” This is the way to do it.”

Ten, cut the budget of every federal agency by 10%.


27 posted on 01/15/2019 8:13:17 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz ("We The People" have turned into "You, The Subjects.")
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To: struggle

I’d say your correct. It’s a win win. In essence, a trade for federal worker security for the wall. No wall, no fed job security for the non-essentials.

Meanwhile the clueless dems celebrate in Puerto Rico

Need to buy up stock in popcorn and crying towels.


28 posted on 01/15/2019 8:21:32 AM PST by redfreedom (The only thing consistent about liberal logic is the inconsistency of their logic.)
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To: Dave W
No, he is not. As was stated during the campaign, Trump isn’t really bothered by a large government.

Agreed, but he is willing to use any lever at his disposal to make opposing him painful.
29 posted on 01/15/2019 8:37:08 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: servo1969
Has President Trump suckered Democrats and the Deep State into a trap that will enable a radical downsizing of the federal bureaucracy?

Please, Lord, make it so! And start with the three big Es: Education, energy and environment.

30 posted on 01/15/2019 8:45:47 AM PST by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: SaxxonWoods

What’s funny to me is the pearl clutching over RIF used on the civilian government workers. Thousands of military have been victims of RIF. People who have put their lives on the line for all of us. We lose needed people every time this occurs. Big difference in losing a skilled aircraft mechanic versus a clerk in the IRS.


31 posted on 01/15/2019 8:48:04 AM PST by Himyar (Comes A Stillness)
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To: nikos1121

“You don’t miss pay in private unions”

Maybe if you’re a union official. The last time my Teamster local consider a strike our strike pay was to be $56/week. Don’t expect the unions to save membership dues for strikes when they can pi$$ them away in Rat political campaigns.


32 posted on 01/15/2019 8:57:54 AM PST by hardspunned
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To: servo1969

The Art of The Deal


33 posted on 01/15/2019 9:02:38 AM PST by Vaduz (women and children to be impacIQ of chimpsted the most.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Heads I win-tails you lose!


34 posted on 01/15/2019 9:04:47 AM PST by Ozark Tom
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To: UnwashedPeasant
What you said is correct, but there is an upside. What you are actually RIFing is the position. So if a GS has seniority they will be retained, but will not necessarily return to the same job. I have been through two RIFs. They do happen and are generally part of a restructuring due to budgets. I am retired from a Fed position. Recently a very senior Fed employee I know was caught in a RIF/restructuring. When the restructuring occurred, the senior employee was retained but was no longer in a management role. That employee retained the pay but was now a grunt again. I remember the lectures this employee gave about responsibility to the program and the DOD during the two previous RIFs. When I came under attack because I told a senior DOD official what he was asking was a violation of the privacy act, that same employee was my worthless rep who told me stop making waves, just do it. That senior employee retired rather then be forced to actually do the work. One comment in the article makes me believe the author is legit. The hard workers the ones who take the job seriously always risk exposing themselves to senior officials which is a crap shoot. You may get praised or punished. The ones who stick around for thirty years keep their head down only doing the minimum required by their PD (position description) and do not break rules. They become untouchable and simply occupy a space. I spent two years after confronting that senior official ducking and hiding. Until after two years of relentless BS I simply retired. Once you reach retirement eligibility as Fed it is hard to be fired, short of breaking the law, any half a$$ attorney can get a termination rescinded.
35 posted on 01/15/2019 9:08:02 AM PST by OldGoatCPO (No Caitiff Choir of Angles will sing for me)
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To: servo1969
When agencies furlough employees for more than 30 calendar days or 22 discontinuous work days, they must use RIF procedures.

I hope President Trump will follow the letter of the law. The word used there is "must" as in "they must use RIF procedures". Time for RIFs in five days. I'd like to see about 90% of the 380,000 furloughed positions permanently eliminated. Best. President. Ever!

Next year, we need a 30-day shutdown that covers nonessential employees from the rest of the cabinet departments. RIF, Round 2, would be just as beautiful. This is about our children's money and our grandchildren's money, since we already put them over $20T in debt. It's time to slow or perhaps even stop the bleeding.

36 posted on 01/15/2019 9:40:32 AM PST by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: servo1969

Doesn’t matter what the laws and policies say, if Trump does it, look for a Federal judge to come along and block it, whether or not it’s within the judge’s jurisdiction...


37 posted on 01/15/2019 9:44:29 AM PST by DJ Frisat (Hey - what happened to my clever tag line?)
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To: servo1969

Do it! Laying them off will cut funding to the radical causes of the left. Eventually, the hardships will teach their descendants some conservative values.


38 posted on 01/15/2019 10:33:24 AM PST by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: servo1969

Do it! Laying them off will cut funding to the radical causes of the left. Eventually, the hardships will teach their descendants some conservative values.


39 posted on 01/15/2019 10:33:26 AM PST by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: UnwashedPeasant
I must admit I'm honestly surprised Performance is even a consideration. The almighty government employee unions were never able to get that off the list? I wonder if they couldn't get rid of it or they just left it there because, frankly, what were the odds there would ever be a President who would let any dept. be shutdown for 30 days? "30 straight days? Yeah, right, like that would ever happen! Everyone knows that would be political suicide."
40 posted on 01/15/2019 11:06:08 AM PST by servo1969
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