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Trump's shutdown gamble now hinges on a wall many Republicans were never truly sold on
NBC "News" ^ | January 14, 2019 | by Noah Rothman

Posted on 01/14/2019 1:02:29 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer

For two years, the GOP had many opportunities to fund Trump’s wall both in part or in whole and it declined on every occasion.

On Friday, January 11, a dubious milestone was reached. We are now living through what has become the longest government shutdown in American history. This seemingly intractable stalemate has created the illusion of partisan consensus. Democrats seem united in opposition to President Donald Trump’s demand for a small amount of funding that would be used to construct portions of the president’s long-promised wall along the U.S.-Mexico border. Republicans, meanwhile, are posturing as though they have always supported Trump’s quest for the boundary. Neither is true.

In truth, though, it is the GOP that is showing more serious signs of cracking - and that’s to be expected. The Republican Party was never united in support of Donald Trump’s wall in the first place.

Less than a month after Trump took the oath of office, Republicans were already backing away from the prospect of a border wall - because of the price tag and lack of spending offsets, to which many Republican lawmakers objected, but also because there was disagreement over the essential utility of a physical partition.

For two years, Republicans had many opportunities to fund Trump’s wall both in part or in whole and they declined on every occasion. In failing to approve the wall, Congressional Republicans rendered a negative verdict on Trump’s signature policy proposal. The GOP was right to be skeptical of what a wall could accomplish. But they should not be allowed to pretend that they have always been steadfast supporters of this project now that a Democratic majority in the House provides them with political cover.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: border; buildthefence; buildthewall; daca; dnctalkingpoint; dnctalkingpoints; dreamact; dreamers; fakenews; illegalaliens; invasion; mediawingofthednc; noahrothman; nonplayercharacter; nonplayercharacters; npc; npcs; partisanmediashills; presstitutes; smearmachine; uniparty
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Call it a barrier then.


41 posted on 01/14/2019 2:45:07 PM PST by Daniel Ramsey (Thank YOU President Trump, finally we can do what America does best, to be the best)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

To hell with those so-called Republicans.


42 posted on 01/14/2019 2:54:00 PM PST by Fledermaus (I'm so excited for Mitt to be back. He and Paulette can reboot: Romney/Ryan 2.0.2.0. ;-))
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To: Lurkinanloomin
Bush League Republicans do not want a border fence any more than Democrats. We would already have one.

Exactly right. The GOP held both houses of Congress and the Presidency for two years, and nothing was done to build a wall.

43 posted on 01/14/2019 3:06:45 PM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: MayflowerMadam
At his SOTU Address he needs to say that there’ll be a 50% fee/tax on every wire transfer of funds from the USA to Mexico. If the illegals pay the fee, it can help fund the wall. If the illegals don’t want to pay the fee — is it isn’t worth it to them — they’ll just go home.

"All Bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of representatives." (U.S. Constitution, Article I, section 7, clause 1).

44 posted on 01/14/2019 3:11:03 PM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: Lurking Libertarian

The GOP had both houses during W.’s administration and all they did was try to pass amnesty.


45 posted on 01/14/2019 3:37:22 PM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents__Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

From what I’ve heard, if Trump just changes his terminology to “physical barrier”, it’s all over. Government is back open (or at least DHS is; now, if they can get those baby-killer poison pills out of the other bill). “Physical barrier” would also better conform with what the CBP actually wants (a wall in some places, a fence in others, maybe just tech in still other places). JMO.


46 posted on 01/14/2019 4:19:51 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Ya lyublyu kovfefe!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Time to fire off missives to NBC on whether they would prefer to be hanged for treason or shot dead.

We are within inches of a civil war. And it’s not looking good for the leftist weenies who can’t find the correct bathroom or the safety on a gun.


47 posted on 01/14/2019 5:05:09 PM PST by sergeantdave (Teach a man to fish and he'll steal your gear and sell it)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
The GOP was right to be skeptical of what a wall could accomplish.

Fine, let them tear down the walls around their properties or their gated communities if they are skeptical. Or maybe even tear out some of the outside walls of their own houses. Same goes for the DemoKKKrats.

48 posted on 01/14/2019 6:15:55 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Ya lyublyu kovfefe!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Shutdown for a shutdown’s sake is a good thing as long as you dont pay the non-working employee.

The More of them you convene to quit and find new jobs the fewer mindless leftist bureaucrats our taxpayer dollars go to feed.


49 posted on 01/14/2019 6:32:44 PM PST by Monorprise
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The wall is acceptable... although a glowing radioactive wasteland thick with minefields and barbed wire would be more effective.


50 posted on 01/14/2019 7:03:16 PM PST by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also. Wall)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I noticed this is the theme of all major dnc news outlets today.
“Polls show that even the republicans do not want a wall and blame President Trump for the shutdown”. I bet a montage of the same wording from each of them could be put together pretty quickly.


51 posted on 01/14/2019 7:07:30 PM PST by CFW
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I’m tiring of so many people saying the Trump administration could have approved the wall/barrier over the past two years.

Idiots forget that the bill would require 60 votes to pass in the Senate and the GOP only had 51 members after McCain died (no guarantee he would have voted for the bill, either).


52 posted on 01/15/2019 2:12:58 AM PST by octex
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