[BroJoeK]

jeffersondem: "Those that dispute the validity of Amendment X should also see Amendment IX.
This is one of the reasons for the disputes on this site.
The schools do not teach the constitution anymore"

But no Founder and no Founding document ever claimed an unlimited "right of secession" at pleasure.
All tied disunion to necessity from abuses, usurpations, injuries or oppression.
No such necessity remotely existed in 1860.

[jeffersondem]

“But no Founder and no Founding document ever claimed an unlimited “right of secession” at pleasure.”

That is an interesting comment.

What, exactly, did the founding document say about “at pleasure.”