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1 posted on 01/08/2019 8:27:18 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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Shapiro and NRO are never-Trumpers and their links should not be allowed on this site.


2 posted on 01/08/2019 8:30:44 AM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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Isn’t this the same Ben Shapiro who called Trump immoral for the Muslim ban, even though he’s written a bunch of articles about uprooting and deporting all Palestinians from Israel?

He is a hack who plays with words and virtue without believing or possessing any of what he espouses.


4 posted on 01/08/2019 8:36:32 AM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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I'm not really understanding Ben's beef with Tucker here...

Can anyone help a brother out?

7 posted on 01/08/2019 8:38:13 AM PST by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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Baloney! Shapiro should be more careful. Not only is his analysis baloney, it’s not kosher baloney. Like William Krystal, he’s making sausage by using adulterated logic. Heaven only knows what’s in their portfolios.


8 posted on 01/08/2019 8:38:36 AM PST by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing))
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To: SeekAndFind

Shapiro is a never Trump magpie being pushed forward now. No thanks


12 posted on 01/08/2019 8:44:45 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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Shapiro is a never Trump magpie being pushed forward now. No thanks


13 posted on 01/08/2019 8:44:46 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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“Without morals a republic cannot subsist any length of time; they therefore who are decrying the Christian religion…are undermining the solid foundation of morals, the best security for the duration of free governments.”
—Charles Carroll, signer of the Declaration of Independence


17 posted on 01/08/2019 8:50:49 AM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said theoal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: SeekAndFind

There were a whole bunch of people who were reserved about Trump in 2016 because of his erratic personal life, who have been happily surprised by his actions as president. Shapiro is one of them.


18 posted on 01/08/2019 8:51:57 AM PST by lurk
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"Market capitalism is a tool, like a staple gun or a toaster. You’d have to be a fool to worship it. Our system was created by human beings for the benefit of human beings. We do not exist to serve markets. Just the opposite. Any economic system that weakens and destroys families is not worth having. A system like that is the enemy of a healthy society."

One of Marx's greatest deceptions was the invention of the term, "capitalism." It made the concepts of free markets, just another, "-ism," a defined system whose merits and faults can be debated in relation to other, "-isms". Mere use of the word, "capitalism," allows Marx to set the terms of the debate. To the contrary, free markets are not an "ism" with rules, predictable patterns, borders, etc defined by anybody but each individual participant in it. Free markets are how civil people interact with one another and conduct their commerce to satisfy their needs and wants. There may be agreed upon rules (i.e., against fraud, breach of contract, etc.) but these do not in and of themselves define a system. Free markets are not an "ism" any more than an ocean or river are a plumbing system.

20 posted on 01/08/2019 8:55:02 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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Shapiro has lived a quite sheltered life. Tucker’s comments reflect the people of America who make America work.

Shapiro’s commentary is from the textbook. He is wooden and is incapable of seeing a shade of grey.


24 posted on 01/08/2019 9:05:44 AM PST by Otto Lidenbrock
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Shapiro is an Israel-firster, open-borders neocon, and a coward.

Some folks here have been bamboozled by this controlled-opposition fraud. They need to do research on this chicken-hawk.


26 posted on 01/08/2019 9:07:21 AM PST by bkopto
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Donald Trump is Harry Callahan(Dirty Harry).

Flawed but HONEST. Wanting the right things. Willing to do what he has to be done.

The forces of corruption are arrayed against him. Times are more desperate than folks realize.

I support him to do what is necessary to save the republic.


29 posted on 01/08/2019 9:15:20 AM PST by LeonardFMason
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All of this article sidesteps the fact that our country as founded was morally connected to religious freedom. The current situation is that the denominational religions, Catholic, Lutheran, Presbyterians, Episcopalians, etc., along with non denominational churches, have been subverted by non virtuous, non religious, non God believers. Universities that were founded by denominational churches have been so diluted over the years as to be unrecognizable to their faithful supporters. There is still the natural law that human beings are born with, the inborn and instinctive knowledge of right and wrong. Many of us just ignore that instinct and substitute our own interpretation of virtue as being flexible. As all of this pertains to Donald Trump, the current national peril America faces is not theological confusion but a tangible fight to the death for the survival of this Republic. It is immediate and Pres Trump in leading this fight must combat the forces of hell that are against him and this Republic.People can dissect his behavior and the depth of his religious convictions but he is obviously very high above his antagonists when it involves fighting to save this country. God bless and protect Pres Trump


31 posted on 01/08/2019 9:27:48 AM PST by mountainfolk
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Tucker is definitely not the sharpest knife.


36 posted on 01/08/2019 9:37:29 AM PST by aquila48
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I believe this article totally misrepresents Tucker Carlsons words and beliefs.

He was simply positing the idea that the way taxes and regulations are configured to maximize money, and minimize the nuclear family are wrong. Instead of directly paying Mothers to stay at home and raise children, while the Father works. American society encourages both parents to work, and the State raises the children.

One could argue that open borders, and importation of workers is a large part of the drop in wages that makes it nearly impossible for one person to provide for his family.

Of course I disagree with his idea that you must fund a College for your children. The idea of a “manufacturing plant” you send your kids to for 2-4 or 6 years, to have a chance at prosperity is ridiculous. There is nothing that teaches like hard work, and any book learning necessary should have taken place by the 12th grade anyway. Few are the trades and professions that require a degree. In the “Wizard of Oz”, the Scarecrow is seen to become well educated when he is given a diploma. That is exactly what our Colleges do. They hand out diplomas, and the receivers are then deemed worth of hire.


38 posted on 01/08/2019 9:44:46 AM PST by Glad2bnuts (If Republicans are not prepared to carry on the Revolution of 1776, prepare for a communist takeover)
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Here’s more evidence of the cowardice and fraudulence of Shapiro:

http://voxday.blogspot.com/2018/08/darkstream-generation-shapiro-or.html?_sm_au_=iVVQfnDVPLHSFqTF


47 posted on 01/08/2019 10:25:55 AM PST by bkopto
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Top me, this is simply a case of individuals with slightly different focuses. I suspect that we have here a "stacking error," which goes to the order in which they discuss priorities, rather than antithetical principles. Reminds me of people verbally reflecting on their approaches of the moment in a College dorm lounge.

There is also a bit of confusion on cause & effect--or, the philosophic equivalent of the chicken or egg debate. Since I never expect uniformity of thought among Conservatives--except in rejecting ill advised change in basic relationships--I do not expect this dust off, if it is that, to be long remembered. (I respect both of these guys, but do not equate them with one of the Founders, intellectually. But, then, who now living can be.)

49 posted on 01/08/2019 10:32:23 AM PST by Ohioan
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America needs more Tucker Carlson and Less Little Ben Shaprio.

what a prick.


50 posted on 01/08/2019 10:45:53 AM PST by bigbob (Trust Trump. Trust the Plan.)
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Tucker wasn’t wrong, in fact I rather admired his recent rant. But Shapiro adds important an important point, one I’ve tried to make as have others here from time to time.

Freedom rests upon a moral foundation, which in turn rests upon a spiritual one. In fact, self-government requires the capacity to govern oneself, and the willingness to do so... which is at its heart a moral quality.

To the degree that the citizens cease to be moral, cease to be willing and able to govern themselves as families and individuals, they oblige the society as a whole to manage them and the society as a whole becomes less and less free.


52 posted on 01/08/2019 11:06:51 AM PST by marron
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I suspect Tucker will agree with Shapiro, and it will surprise me if he doesn’t have him on the show to elaborate.


53 posted on 01/08/2019 11:08:47 AM PST by marron
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