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Teddy Roosevelt died 100 years ago today
1/6/2019

Posted on 01/06/2019 12:01:17 PM PST by Borges



TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: roosevelt; teddyroosevelt; theodoreroosevelt; tr
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To: nicollo

TR’s youngest son Quentin became a pilot in WWI and was shot down on July 14, 1918—the only son of a President to die in combat.


41 posted on 01/06/2019 3:09:03 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: Taxman
Very interesting question. On one hand, he did come in second to Wilson on both electoral and popular vote. On the other, he ran 15% behind Wilson.

I can see him being more pushy than Wilson about getting us into World War I. But I can also see more pushback from congress. He would have pushed for that stupid amendment to elect U.S. Senators by popular vote. But I'm not sure he would have been nearly as enthusiastic about the income tax.

Neither TR not Wilson were all that popular by the time the 2016 election rolled around. FWIW, Wilson was the first two term president to be elected with less than a majority of popular voter. Clinton was the second. BO was the only one to do worse the second time around.

42 posted on 01/06/2019 3:44:20 PM PST by Vigilanteman (The politicized state destroys all aspects of civil society, human kindness and private charity.)
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To: BipolarBob

Trump is as close to Teddy Roosevelt as it’s ever going to get.


43 posted on 01/06/2019 3:56:11 PM PST by MGunny
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To: BipolarBob

Wow, only 60? I thought he was older than that!


44 posted on 01/06/2019 4:24:56 PM PST by caver
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To: caver

TR is still the youngest person ever to be President—he was 42 when McKinley was assassinated. JFK was 43 when he was elected President. TR began his political career in the NY legislature when he was about 23...so he had been in the public eye for many years. I think some people were expecting him to run again for the Presidency in 1920.


45 posted on 01/06/2019 4:45:48 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: x; Impy; fieldmarshaldj
>> Roosevelt in office was different from Roosevelt out of office. He became more "progressive" after he left the White House. There was actually much continuity between Roosevelt and his successor Taft.
But Roosevelt missed being at the center of the action, and his political allies kept nudging him further left, to the point where he challenged the election bid of Taft, his hand-picked successor. Taft had a legal mind. TR was more combative and aggressive.
<<

You make a good case that he ran further left as a third party candidate than he did when he was President. I don't deny TR's third party bid was disastrous and gave us Woodrow Wilson. But to be fair, Teddy had a "WTF have I done?!?!" wake up call after Wilson started enacting his horrible policies, and TR returned to the GOP fold in 1916 and endorsed and campaigned for Charles Evans Hughes, saying it was paramount that we MUST defeat Wilson for re-election. With a united GOP behind him, Hughes narrowly lost (and I would further argue Hughes himself was no conservative prize)

I give guys like TR and Eisenhower more credit when they realize their actions (third party bid and appointing Earl Warren to SCOTUS) resulted in taking this country down the path of marxism, than guys like Nixon and Ford inadvertently doing something to screw over this country and never expressing regret for it. Also, even when Wilson was running as a "conservative" RAT in 1912, he somehow managed to campaign on policies FURTHER left than self-described "progressive" Teddy Roosevelt. For example, Wilson called for nationalizing the railroad industry and both TR and Taft rightfully denounced it as socialism.

Lefties today try to co-opt Teddy Roosevelt as one of their own and make it sound like today's "Progressives" are in the same mold. While Teddy Roosevelt was NO conservative, he certainly wasn't anywhere close to Bernie Sanders crowd. In fact, not only was he a much more decent human being than today's "Progressives", he was also better than the Democrat "Progessives" on his heyday. RATs like to pretend that "the two parties switched sides" but Democrat "Progressives" were always more liberal than their GOP counterparts, aside from a odd fluke like that Wisconsin commie "Republican" Bob La Follette (and GOP "Progressives" were never a majority of Republicans in that era anyway)

46 posted on 01/06/2019 5:57:24 PM PST by BillyBoy (States rights is NOT a suicide pact.)
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To: FreeReign

“Progressives” keep “Progressing?”

I am damn sick and tired of their Marxist Bullshit!

Enough is enough!

Doesn’t work. Has NEVER worked! Will NEVER work!

Let us help President Trump drive a stake through the heart of “Progressivism” once and for all!


47 posted on 01/06/2019 8:10:39 PM PST by Taxman (We will never be a truly free people so long as we have the income tax and the IRS.)
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To: Vigilanteman

Haad Teddy won, we might not have a Federal Reserve or the “Progressive” Income tax, either.

Hard to say, but he would have been better for the USA than Mrs. Wilson!

And, had Teddy won, we might be a better country today!


48 posted on 01/06/2019 8:13:23 PM PST by Taxman (We will never be a truly free people so long as we have the income tax and the IRS.)
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To: GreenLanternCorps

Love this!


49 posted on 01/06/2019 8:46:07 PM PST by jocon307
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To: Borges

I remember it as if it were yesterday.

RIP Ted!


50 posted on 01/06/2019 11:26:13 PM PST by ImpBill (Conservative little "l" libertarian)
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To: Taxman

TR was the Ross Perot of his day. He pulled enough of the conservative vote away to allow progressive butt-wipe Wilson to win the office of POTUS. This forever changed the landscape of America into the progressive socialist utopia we see today teetering on extinction. Although it took 100 years to see fruition, this arrogant shit single-handedly killed the American dream.


51 posted on 01/07/2019 3:10:39 AM PST by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: Verginius Rufus

TR’s youngest son Quentin became a pilot in WWI and was shot down on July 14, 1918—the only son of a President to die in combat.


Another son died of a heart attack in France shortly after participating in the D-Day invasion.

And, to his credit, he was shot in the chest at a campaign event in Milwaukee—and still gave the speech. His folded speech (they gave long speeches in those days) and his glasses case took a lot of the bullet’s energy. He pulled out the holed and bloodied paper and told the crowd they needed to be patient with him because he was shot on the way in.


52 posted on 01/07/2019 11:24:13 AM PST by hanamizu
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To: al baby
RBG gave a very moving eulogy

53 posted on 01/07/2019 11:36:08 AM PST by Bratch ("The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke)
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To: Taxman

#35 he was the Ross Perot of his day.


54 posted on 01/08/2019 12:22:00 PM PST by minnesota_bound
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To: minnesota_bound

That is a great analogy!

Teddy sure was that!

We’d be a different country fer shure, fer shure had W’s daddy been re-elected!


55 posted on 01/08/2019 3:13:57 PM PST by Taxman (We will never be a truly free people so long as we have the income tax and the IRS.)
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