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Liz Cheney Throws in Digs at Rand in Her Critique of Syria Withdrawal
Townhall ^ | Dec 27 2019 | Cortney O'Brien

Posted on 12/29/2018 11:30:13 AM PST by rintintin

Rep. Liz Cheney (R-WY) added her name to the long list of lawmakers to publicly oppose President Trump's decision to pull U.S. troops out of Syria. She minced no words during her appearance on "Face the Nation" over the weekend.

"I am deeply, deeply concerned, and I oppose strongly the president's decision apparently to withdraw troops from Syria, the apparent decision that we're now going to be looking to withdraw troops from Afghanistan," Cheney said. "I think the president has done a lot of very good things in terms of beginning to rebuild our military, getting out of the Iranian nuclear agreement, but these two decisions would be disastrous. They would really in many ways hand victories to our enemies, to Iran, to ISIS in Syria, the Taliban, Al Qaeda in Afghanistan. It's a very dangerous path to go down, and we shouldn't be going down it. We need to make sure that we keep our troops there in order to prevent the establishment of safe havens for those groups that want to attack us."

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections; US: Kentucky; US: Wyoming
KEYWORDS: assad; cheney; donaldtrump; lizcheney; paul; randpaul; syria; trump
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To: rintintin; All

FTA:

“[B]ut these two decisions would be disastrous. They would really in many ways hand victories to our enemies, to Iran, to ISIS in Syria, the Taliban, Al Qaeda in Afghanistan.”

Liz, please tell me how our leaving Syria will “hand a victory” to ISIS in Syria when the Syrian army, with more than enough resources to obliterate ISIS and us no longer secretly supporting ISIS, is right now taking our
place and is supported by our ally, Saudi Arabia.


21 posted on 12/29/2018 11:52:48 AM PST by libstripper
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To: rintintin
Daddy is the very epitomized cliche' of the Military-Industrial-Complex|Chicken-Hawk|Neo-Conservative|Establishment|Globalist|Elite...just keep going with descriptors and you wouldn't be wrong. He's all of it.

His picture is next to all of it in the dictionary.

22 posted on 12/29/2018 11:54:49 AM PST by AAABEST (NY/DC/LA media/political industrial complex DELENDA EST)
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To: rintintin

Liz — we pull out and if they pop their head out of the box and threaten US interests we send the military back to break stuff again. You know — pull out, put back in — the same stuff Dick used to do with you.

Somehow we need a military that can remotely and precisely break things that need breaking with minimal risk to US lives, i.e. send in the drones.


23 posted on 12/29/2018 11:54:56 AM PST by plain talk
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To: Carl Vehse

“Rep. Cheney should recommend a declaration of war so that the U.S. can justly use its full war capabilities and resources to bring the enemy to unconditional surrender or total annihilation.”

And after we did that, just exactly what would we say we’ve accomplished except the likelihood that we will have suffered more casualties and pi$$ed away more money that we really don’t have in the first place? I am a fan of Israel! That said, other than making sure it survives, what exactly to we gain by being there? We now have more oil than the Saudi’s, so I’d like to know just who’s interests are being served by being there at all. I am way, way more concerned about Putin and the Chinese being in our hemisphere than what goes on in the ME and Africa, starting with “fixing” Venezuela, El Salvador, Guatemala, and most of the rest of the dictator-run mini-$hit hole countries between Mexico and Venezuela.


24 posted on 12/29/2018 11:55:08 AM PST by vette6387
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To: Carl Vehse

“If U.S. military action is truly needed in Syria (and not just to enrich the military-industrial complex) then Rep. Cheney should recommend a declaration of war so that the U.S. can justly use its full war capabilities and resources to bring the enemy to unconditional surrender or total annihilation.”

She should also specify against whom, ISIS being mostly defeated and the Syrians doing what looks like a perfectly good job of mopping up.


25 posted on 12/29/2018 11:56:15 AM PST by libstripper
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

“We’ve done it her dad’s way (it’s also Hillary Clinton’s way and Barack Obama’s way) since 2001. It’s cost us trillions of dollars and has resulted in us trying to aid Islamic radicals who hate us to overthrow a dictator who also hates us. Liz and the other foreign policy establishment types really need to learn how to learn.”

You left out our most precious “commodity,” our young men and women in our military. Tell f*cking LIz Cheney to agree to send her family members first if she wants to continue this madness. I watched my Aunt and Uncle grieve for the loss of their son in Vietnam until their deaths. We had no business in Vietnam either, but we managed to get 50,000 of our mostly young men killed there for NOTHING!


26 posted on 12/29/2018 11:58:58 AM PST by vette6387
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To: vette6387
vette6387 @ 24: "And after we did that, just exactly what would we say we’ve accomplished"

You left out the first part of my quote: "If U.S. military action is truly needed in Syria (and not just to enrich the military-industrial complex)..."

27 posted on 12/29/2018 12:09:52 PM PST by Carl Vehse
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To: rintintin

Well at least a Bushy new world order globalist has for once said why we need to be in Syria. You see, of we leave it will make it possible for various bogeymen to find safe havens. Of course, by that logic we need to be there forever. And everywhere else to, for that matter.


28 posted on 12/29/2018 12:13:42 PM PST by pepsi_junkie (Often wrong, but never in doubt!)
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To: rintintin

Sorry, Liz. Iraq, Israel, Bahrain and 5 wargroups tend to discount your theory.

The ONLY thing I’m concerned about are the Kurds and would HOPE that we make sure Turkey knows they are off limits.


29 posted on 12/29/2018 12:14:05 PM PST by VeniVidiVici
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To: rintintin
Here's the thing as I understand it.

Our troops in Syria were there in an advisor and training capacity. Trump was advised by CIA, Joint Chiefs, Military intel, his own NSA, et al that we could pull out and still have eyes and ears on the ground and, if need be, we still have forces on the ready in Iraq.

Trump is someone who is cognizant of expense and efficiency and obviously came to the conclusion our interests could be best served by a pullout.

So far, Trump has been right on the money in every major decision.

I think it's safe to say we can trust him here to do the right thing after having heard all the options.

It's not like he's making a decision in a vacuum. He has the best intel in the world and the best advisers.

30 posted on 12/29/2018 12:14:26 PM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: AnotherUnixGeek
Liz and the other foreign policy establishment types really need to learn how to learn...

Unfortunately, I believe Liz, her Daddy Dick and the rest of her family understand very well where they're trying to steer US and World Government.

Firstly, they have worked with a long list of predecessors to see the US Government taken away from the citizenry, replaced with those beholden to the international Illuminati, that wishes all countries to give up their sovereignty and rule as they believe is their divine right, from the seat of the British Monarchy, by the time the Duke of Cambridge has become King (after the heir apparent, Prince Charles, might succeed).

They've also worked to assure that members of the 13 families continue to grow their wealth and leverage over the common folk. Wars have been particularly effective toward that end (as you've noted), but also oil, gold &banks, and drugs have worked so well for the Rockefellers, Rothschilds and Bushes, respectively.

We common folk get to see our children and grandchildren used for cannon fodder.

31 posted on 12/29/2018 12:17:31 PM PST by rx (Truth Will Out!)
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To: rintintin

Liz Cheny: advocate spokeswoman for the Military Industrial Complex


32 posted on 12/29/2018 12:18:21 PM PST by KTM rider ( .......than to post and remove all doubt)
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To: txhurl
"Genie's founder, chairman, controlling shareholder and CEO is Howard Jonas. Avi Goldin serves as the company's CFO, Michael Stein is the company's COO and Geoffrey Rochwarger serves as Vice Chairman. The president of its Israeli subsidiary is Effie Eitam. Genie Energy's Strategic advisory board is composed of: Dick Cheney (former vice president of the United States), Rupert Murdoch (media mogul and chairman of News Corp), James Woolsey (former CIA director), Larry Summers (former head of the US Treasury), Bill Richardson, former Governor of New Mexico, an ex-ambassador to the United Nations and United States Energy Secretary[2], Michael Steinhardt, Jacob Rothschild,[3][2], and Mary Landrieu, former United States Senator from Louisiana. "

Well, there's a motley crewe.

33 posted on 12/29/2018 12:21:40 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: shelterguy
This image will forever stick in my craw.
34 posted on 12/29/2018 12:27:20 PM PST by Wilderness Conservative (Nature is the ultimate conservative.)
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To: rintintin

WE HAD A WHOLE 2000 TROOPS THERE.

At a cost of 150 billion???


35 posted on 12/29/2018 12:31:44 PM PST by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing Obamacare is worse than Obamacare itself.)
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To: rintintin

WE HAD A WHOLE 2000 TROOPS THERE.

At a cost of 150 billion???


36 posted on 12/29/2018 12:31:44 PM PST by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing Obamacare is worse than Obamacare itself.)
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To: fruitless

[A real war is way easier - you can beat them and go home. These low-intensity asymmetrical conflicts are way harder.]


I wouldn’t call taking 400,000 dead in WWII and spending 2 years worth of annual output ($43T) in terms of direct costs easy. If you do the numbers the way some of the war critics do it, WWII would have cost the equivalent of $200T. Afghanistan and Iraq are easy. You just spend about 10% of the military budget for decades until the insurgents give up, which is what it takes.

The Colombians have been fighting an insurgency for 50 years. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colombian_conflict The last Indian campaigns ended in the early 20th century, after almost 400 years of off-and-on insurgent campaigns against European settlers and their descendants. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Indian_Wars There are quicker, low-tech, low-budget ways to resolve this. But that would involve punitive massacres along the lines of Lidice, where 5,000 Czechs were killed in reprisal for the assassination of Reinhard Heydrich. Czech partisan operations were never the same after that. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Anthropoid


37 posted on 12/29/2018 12:35:26 PM PST by Zhang Fei (They can have my pitbull when they pry his cold dead jaws off my ass.)
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To: rintintin

NeoCon daoughter of NeoCon


38 posted on 12/29/2018 12:39:57 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: an amused spectator

“Another warmongering Fredocon.”

What? Because she disagrees with one decision? She even gives our President kudos but GOD forbid should she voice ANY disagreement EVER about ANY policy then she is this classification or that classification or fill in the blank term of the week.

You know your nation is lost when you can’t voice any disagreement over certain policies and must be lock step 100% out of fear of reprisals. Did we become sheep?


39 posted on 12/29/2018 12:41:40 PM PST by Jarhead9297
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To: rintintin

Since liz is so hot on staying in syria, perhaps she should fly her sorry ass over there to do the fighting.


40 posted on 12/29/2018 12:48:38 PM PST by chief lee runamok (expect nothing)
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