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To: upchuck

EMP is almost as big of a hoax as global warming.


8 posted on 12/27/2018 5:50:54 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: central_va

EMP is almost as big of a hoax as global warming.
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If you are willing to explain I am all ears. If I take a TV remote put it in the microwave and Run 1 second to circuitry is toasted. I would think this is a little bit related to that.


12 posted on 12/27/2018 5:55:58 PM PST by CincyRichieRich (Either the Wall gets built or America becomes a democrat socialist state.)
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To: central_va

It’s real. It was discovered after a test above ground back in the 50’s.

Many places I go to work are EMP fortified.


16 posted on 12/27/2018 6:02:39 PM PST by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west))
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To: central_va

“EMP is almost as big of a hoax as global warming”.

Please explain why it is a hoax. I’ll look for your explanation.


39 posted on 12/27/2018 6:24:00 PM PST by laplata (The Left/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: central_va

“EMP is almost as big of a hoax as global warming”.

I’ve seen your other explanations on this thread. No need to explain why it’s a hoax. Please disregard my request to explain why it’s a hoax.


42 posted on 12/27/2018 6:26:54 PM PST by laplata (The Left/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: central_va

EMP is not a hoax. it has been demonstrated.


56 posted on 12/27/2018 6:49:27 PM PST by Agatsu77
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To: central_va

“EMP is almost as big of a hoax as global warming.”

My hope is that some place reasonably remote, like Hawaii, gets hit. At that then we’d GET SERIOUS about hardening against it.


95 posted on 12/27/2018 8:57:13 PM PST by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart - I just don't tell anyone.)
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To: central_va; upchuck; CincyRichieRich; SpaceBar; Berlin_Freeper; laplata

Central_va is right in essence and intended meaning. “One Second After” is fiction, and the descriptions of effects in it are hysterically exaggerated.

Read about the EMP tests on cars on page 115 in the following. At least some publicly and privately owned important facilities are better prepared since 2008. Depends on where you live and what the people in charge are like.

Never mind. I’ll do a copy-and-paste below the following credits to show you the part about tests on cars and trucks.

http://www.futurescience.com/emp/A2473-EMP-Commission.pdf

Report of the Commission to Assess the Threat to the United States from Electromagnetic Pulse (EMP) Attack

Critical National Infrastructures

Commission Members

Dr. John S. Foster, Jr.
Mr. Earl Gjelde
Dr. William R. Graham (Chairman)
Dr. Robert J. Hermann
Mr. Henry (Hank) M. Kluepfel
Gen Richard L. Lawson, USAF (Ret.)
Dr. Gordon K. Soper
Dr. Lowell L. Wood, Jr.
Dr. Joan B. Woodard

April 2008

[Excerpt:]

We tested a sample of 37 cars in an EMP simulation laboratory, with automobile vintages ranging from 1986 through 2002. Automobiles of these vintages include extensive electronics and represent a significant fraction of automobiles on the road today. The testing was conducted by exposing running and non-running automobiles to sequentially increasing EMP field intensities. If anomalous response (either temporary or permanent) was observed, the testing of that particular automobile was stopped. If no anomalous response was observed, the testing was continued up to the field intensity limits of the simulation capability (approximately 50 kV/m).

Automobiles were subjected to EMP environments under both engine turned off and engine turned on conditions. No effects were subsequently observed in those automobiles that were not turned on during EMP exposure. The most serious effect observed on running automobiles was that the motors in three cars stopped at field strengths of approximately 30 kV/m or above. In an actual EMP exposure, these vehicles would glide to a stop and require the driver to restart them. Electronics in the dashboard of one automobile were damaged and required repair. Other effects were relatively minor. Twenty-five automobiles exhibited malfunctions that could be considered only a nuisance (e.g., blinking dashboard lights) and did not require driver intervention to correct. Eight of the 37 cars tested did not exhibit any anomalous response.

Based on these test results, we expect few automobile effects at EMP field levels below 25 kV/m. Approximately 10 percent or more of the automobiles exposed to higher field levels may experience serious EMP effects, including engine stall, that require driver intervention to correct. We further expect that at least two out of three automobiles on the road will manifest some nuisance response at these higher field levels. The serious malfunctions could trigger car crashes on U.S. highways; the nuisance malfunctions could exacerbate this condition. The ultimate result of automobile EMP exposure could be triggered crashes that damage many more vehicles than are damaged by the EMP, the consequent loss of life, and multiple injuries.

Trucks
As is the case for automobiles, the potential EMP vulnerability of trucks derives from the trend toward increasing use of electronics. We assessed the EMP vulnerability of trucks using an approach identical to that used for automobiles. Eighteen running and non-running trucks were exposed to simulated EMP in a laboratory. The intensity of the EMP fields was increased until either anomalous response was observed or simulator limits were reached. The trucks ranged from gasoline-powered pickup trucks to large diesel-powered tractors. Truck vintages ranged from 1991 to 2003.

Of the trucks that were not running during EMP exposure, none were subsequently affected during our test. Thirteen of the 18 trucks exhibited a response while running. Most seriously, three of the truck motors stopped. Two could be restarted immediately, but one required towing to a garage for repair. The other 10 trucks that responded exhibited relatively minor temporary responses that did not require driver intervention to cor-rect. Five of the 18 trucks tested did not exhibit any anomalous response up to field strengths of approximately 50 kV/m.

Based on these test results, we expect few truck effects at EMP field levels below approximately 12 kV/m. At higher field levels, 70 percent or more of the trucks on the road will manifest some anomalous response following EMP exposure. Approximately 15 percent or more of the trucks will experience engine stall, sometimes with permanent damage that the driver cannot correct.

Similar to the case for automobiles, the EMP impact on trucks could trigger vehicle crashes on U.S. highways. As a result, many more vehicles could be damaged than those damaged directly by EMP exposure.


99 posted on 12/27/2018 9:20:48 PM PST by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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