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1 posted on 12/26/2018 11:34:23 AM PST by jazusamo
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I agree with him! Unless the planet can be proven habitable with unmanned flights why send anyone there? It’s a money sink hole otherwise


2 posted on 12/26/2018 11:36:26 AM PST by Jarhead9297
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Explore Mars and all of a sudden it will be Sutters Mill 1848!


3 posted on 12/26/2018 11:37:12 AM PST by Bringbackthedraft (What is earned is treasured, what is free is worth what you paid for it.)
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Having spent 45 years in aerospace (manned and unmanned), I’ve said for 20 years that we’ll need more Martian voters before we ever get funding approved for manned travel to Mars.


4 posted on 12/26/2018 11:39:37 AM PST by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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How would you get enough water on Mars?


5 posted on 12/26/2018 11:40:19 AM PST by forgotten man
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Save all that money and instead spend it trying to achieve light speed. We’re never going anywhere worth going until we can.


7 posted on 12/26/2018 11:41:54 AM PST by I cannot think of a name
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Stupid, but cool.


8 posted on 12/26/2018 11:42:27 AM PST by rightwingcrazy
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At best Mars will end up being a scientist outpost similar to those in Antarctica today. Hardly a model for a new world colony. Where are the cities, cultural centers and transportation in Antarctica?

At worst, death and money lost.

On the other hand Musk’s revolution in space acces is useful for Earth to Earth transport, and defense against comets/ asteroids.


9 posted on 12/26/2018 11:43:09 AM PST by cicero2k
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Had he talked to Buzz Aldrin? I thought the Mars Cycler idea he came up with would be an economical vehicle for getting astronauts to Mars and back.


10 posted on 12/26/2018 11:43:12 AM PST by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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Has some value as a watering hole of course.
Be a long while before it’s needed.


11 posted on 12/26/2018 11:43:34 AM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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It’s good Bill Anders wasn’t in charge in Bill Anders’ day or no one would know who Bill Anders is.


12 posted on 12/26/2018 11:44:00 AM PST by John W (Trump/Pence 2020)
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We can alternatively stay home, let China and India colonize the moon and Mars, leaving us a illegal immigrant cesspool.


13 posted on 12/26/2018 11:46:32 AM PST by Reno89519 (No Amnesty! No Catch-and-Release! Just Say No to All Illegal Aliens! Arrest & Deport!)
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Is there a better place to send demoncraps?

PUSH this idea, don't denigrate it. Ship the Stupids to Mars, or tell them it's a tropical vacation on Venus. Then dream up some reason that radio com suddenly stops...

Talk about a win-win. What is better than sending technical retards with no survival skills, and the bland assumption they are "intelligent", to either a sub-zero near-vacuum, or a sulfuric acid atmosphere the temperature of molten lead?

15 posted on 12/26/2018 11:49:33 AM PST by jonascord (First rule of the Dunning-Kruger Club is that you do not know you are in the Dunning-Kruger club.)
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Instead of going to Mars, we should be setting up an orbital assembly station to build both manned and unmanned space vehicles for long range explorations.

In particular we should be assembling space vehicles that will undergo high speed runs in order to perfect space drives which actually can be experimental craft at first with the drives assembled , tested and tuned in zero gravity conditions.

Then if we go to a planet such as Mars, the process of travel would not be so cumbersome.

We need a working space drive, and these likely cannot be invented or tested on the earth itself, there is just to much gravity and intervening factors which slow or prevent the transitions from theory to invention.

That’s why the nascent US Space Force makes sense.


17 posted on 12/26/2018 11:55:38 AM PST by Candor7 ((Obama Fascism)http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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Dude, don’t spoil the fun. I’ve already got a list of people I’d like to send . . . on a one-way trip.


18 posted on 12/26/2018 12:04:32 PM PST by colorado tanker
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Yes and no. First off we should send nuclear powered tunneling robots to create underground habitats. They can work for years, augmented at stages with other, specialized robots, before humans go there for the first time.

Imagine how the value of the mission changes if people can live there for an entire year?


19 posted on 12/26/2018 12:04:45 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("There is no 'try' only sasuga!")
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as far as I am concerned, it is necessary to send people to Mars in order to settle the place

we can’t rely on just one planet anymore
especially with all the Muslim terrorists and commies destroying or trying to destroy this planet

mankind needs additional options, and Mars (and the moon) are the obvious candidates for us


20 posted on 12/26/2018 12:07:18 PM PST by faithhopecharity (“Politicians arent born, they’re excreted.” Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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Super interesting program, but with no magnetosphere, how would a terraformed Mars retain an atmosphere..?

You would make one, and it would float off into space.

I’m still very interested.

I think the biggest barrier to a habitable Mars would be this new, vaguely Khymer Rougian notion that any mancentric effort to improve a place —any place— is disruptive or infectious, making in some sense worse; damaged and made somehow unfair:

“Earth as a fever and the virus is MANKIND”

I think the minute they try to exploit and USE Mars, you’re going to have tons of insane people caterwauling about “man is DESTROYING Mars”.


21 posted on 12/26/2018 12:09:00 PM PST by gaijin
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Sending a solar monitoring station there could be of some benefit to get climate forecasting here. But that need not be manned.


24 posted on 12/26/2018 12:15:17 PM PST by mosesdapoet (mosesdapoet aka L,J,Keslin posting here for the record)
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This is going nowhere until the Mason Interstellar Drive is fully perfected.


30 posted on 12/26/2018 12:34:16 PM PST by ASOC (Having humility really means one is rarely humiliated)
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The people who master manned space travel will rule the next century, and our grandkids will work for them.


33 posted on 12/26/2018 12:37:17 PM PST by marron
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