Posted on 12/22/2018 3:21:38 AM PST by vannrox
New Jersey Unless youve been under a rock lately, then youve likely seen the unprecedented push by all levels of government to separate law abiding Americans from their guns. No, this is not some conspiracy theory. The president himself ushered in a new level of gun control doing what his liberal predecessor even refused to do by banning bump stocks. However, as states across the country seek to limit the ability of innocent people to defend themselves, people are disobeying.
In May, Gov. Phil Murphy signed a law that reduced the maximum capacity of ammunition magazines from 15 rounds to 10. Citizens immediately sued the government, citing the unconstitutional nature of the ban, but they failed.
New Jerseys law reasonably fits the States interest in public safety and does not unconstitutionally burden the Second Amendments right to self-defense in the home, the court wrote in their decision. The law also does not violate the Fifth Amendments Takings Clause because it does not require gun owners to surrender their magazines but instead allows them to retain modified magazines or register firearms that have magazines that cannot be modified.
AG Gurbir Grewal applauded the ruling on Twitter stating: This just in: for months, individuals have been challenging NJs limits on large capacity magazinesa sensible law to address mass shootings. Today, the court of appeals upheld the law. Big win for public safety and law enforcement safety!
This month, citizens were given a December 11 deadline on their new ban on standard capacity magazines. The law effectively turned one million law abiding gun owners into criminals, literally over night if they failed to turn in the magazines.
Somehow, New Jersey lawmakers thought insane individuals who want to carry out mass shootings would be lining up to turn in their 15-round magazines as anyone caught with one of these banned magazines is now committing a fourth-degree felony. However, even the law abiding citizens are choosing to disobeyand thats a good thing.
According to Ammoland.com, who says they spoke with multiple police departments throughout the state, no one has turned in their magazines.
Two sources from within the State Police, who spoke to AmmoLand on condition of anonymity, told AmmoLand News that they both do not know of any magazines turned over to their agency and doubted that any were turned in. They also stated that the State Police also engaged the AGs office for guidance on how to respond to inquiries such as ours. They were unaware if the Attorney General has returned to their request for guidance.
All the local police departments that AmmoLand contacted stated that they have not had any magazines turned into them.
AmmoLand has filed a Freedom of Information Act request with The New Jersey State Police to get an official count of the number of magazines turned in by New Jersey citizens. We will update the story if our FOIA request is fulfilled.
This act of disobedience is the only way that law-abiding citizens can effectively and peacefully fight back against the gun grabbers. And so far, it has been effective.
As TFTP has reported, weve seen similar acts of disobedience from other states like Illinois. In Effingham County, IL, the town board voted in April to order its employees not to enforce any laws that would unconstitutionally restrict the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution.
Effingham County States Attorney Bryan Kibler said the measure is meant to act as a warning shot to tell the state legislature that the county does not want unnecessary gun control measures, or for the sale of firearms to be jeopardized. The resolution states:
The Right of the People to Keep and Bear Arms is guaranteed as an Individual Right under the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution and under the Constitution of the State of Illinois, and; the Right of the People to Keep and Bear Arms for defense of Life, Liberty, and Property is regarded as an Inalienable Right by the People of Effingham County, Illinois, and the People of Effingham County, Illinois, derive economic benefit from all safe forms of firearms recreation, hunting, and shooting conducted within Effingham County using all types of firearms allowable under the United States Constitution.
Board member David Campbell told Fox News that the county decided its time for someone to take a hard stand. Indeed, as weve noted time and again, rights are preserved and gained when good people make a stand and refuse to obey bad laws.
This is appropriate! It is suppose to be a government by the people for the people. But Democratic Crime Syndicate elite want to disarm moral citizens.
Theoretically speaking, If the state tried to actually take things from it’s people, the effort would be very organized. In order for a resistance to be successful, it would most likely have to be very organized, also.
I don't recall which "court" issued this opinion however it's irrelevant.
The point of the Second Amendment is not about self-defense in one's home or hunting. The Second Amendment exists because the Founders of our country understood that every Government eventually turns into a tyranny and the citizens of these United States would eventually need to be sufficiently armed to overturn tyranny when it comes HERE.
Well, here we are. Witness the sitting President, Donald J. Trump's battle against the deep state. We are on the brink of tyranny (if we're not there already and that's a debate for another time.)
The Second Amendment is about the Citizenry's right to defend itself from its own Government.
Damn' right stupid laws like this should be resisted with every fiber of our being.
"The Tree of Liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson
Bravo! Couldn't possibly agree with you more. Well said.
I hope they send an Aunt Teefah maggot to pick up my magazines. Send a bunch of them.
Several million Henry Bowman’s out there
Laws are only for the schmucks, not them.
In Canada you dill a hole so you can only put 5 rounds on the mag then pop in a rivet ,LOL
what about those 22 caliber revolvers with more than 10 chambers in the cylinder.
And how long does it take to drop a mag and reload with another mag. Used to do it in 1.4 seconds from the last shot in a man until the first shot out of a fresh mag. Law makers are ignorant as well as stupid.
“Citizens immediately sued the government, citing the unconstitutional nature of the ban, but they failed.”
Yes and no. The third circuit will finally flip in January when another Trump nominee gets confirmed. The appeal will then be heard by the full circuit court. Of course, the third circuit would’ve flipped sooner if not for the stonewalling by senator Fake.
For some odd reason our elected officials seem to prefer creating laws to control objects rather than the people that misuse the objects. No matter what law they create when trying to control an object, smart people will find a way around it. Our country was founded by people that believed liberty was the cornerstone of freedom. These elected officials that chip away at liberty are trying to end freedom.
I just remind the gun grabbers that I run into that if guns were completely outlawed there would still be guns. When they start to argue back I mention the prevalence of heroin as an example. They usually shut up after that.
Excellent book. A must read.
15 round magazines were still very common with pistol purchases around 20 or more years ago, even with the 15 round limit. I saw plenty on display in cases at local gun shops. So there’s still quite a few out there, sitting in people’s homes. And there’s likely plenty of owners who aren’t even aware of the new law.
Anyone remember when California tried to add lever action rifles to their a-s-s-s-ault rifle ban? Neal Knox was the first to find out about it. Under the law only a 10 shot Henry Rifle could be bought and sold, nothing over 10 shots.
This has nothing to do with safety. Ayn Rand got it right decades ago:
“Did you really think that we want those laws to be observed?” said Dr. Ferris. “We want them broken. You’d better get it straight that it’s not a bunch of boy scouts you’re up against - then you’ll know that this is not the age for beautiful gestures. We’re after power and we mean it. You fellows were pikers, but we know the real trick, and you’d better get wise to it. There’s no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren’t enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What’s there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced nor objectively interpreted - and you create a nation of law-breakers - and then you cash in on guilt. Now, that’s the system, Mr. Rearden, that’s the game, and once you understand it, you’ll be much easier to deal with.”
So politicians who are surrounded by others with guns for protection are using people who have guns to take away guns from people so they have no protection.... from the state politicians.
One cartridge at a time.
Trump shouldnt have caved on bump stocks.
FWIW several online articles posited that did this knowing it would be overturned in the courts, since a bump stock is NOT a machine gun.
I thought Chuck was
Going to Part the Red Sea !
I’d have been more impressed by that picture if he’d been holding an AR-15
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