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1 posted on 12/17/2018 4:55:02 AM PST by billorites
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I wonder if he shot himself in the back of the head while cleaning his gun???
2 posted on 12/17/2018 4:57:07 AM PST by ExSES (the "bottom-line")
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Well....it could have happened. Maybe he was just a bit drunk, and decided to clean the weapon while it was loaded.


3 posted on 12/17/2018 4:57:17 AM PST by pepsionice
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Tough call. Either admit he was assassinated which shows that your security was compromised, or that he was an incompetent fool who can’t even clean a pistol correctly.

Wonder how far up the chain that decision was made at considering he was a general.


4 posted on 12/17/2018 4:59:00 AM PST by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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Didn’t realize Trump has now engaged the Iranians to help investigate Hillary.

But I guess so...


5 posted on 12/17/2018 5:00:03 AM PST by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart - I just don't tell anyone.)
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Twice, in the back of his head?


7 posted on 12/17/2018 5:01:06 AM PST by Flintlock (The ballot box STOLEN, our soapbox taken away--the BULLET BOX is left to us.)
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...twice.


9 posted on 12/17/2018 5:02:05 AM PST by cuban leaf
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I bet it was the Mossad Pistol Cleaning Service.


10 posted on 12/17/2018 5:02:38 AM PST by Blue House Sue
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I think there is a mossad agent somewhere reading this article with a wry grin on his face.


12 posted on 12/17/2018 5:06:07 AM PST by crusadersoldier
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Clintons had something against him? Arkancide!


13 posted on 12/17/2018 5:06:51 AM PST by NEBO (M A G A !!!)
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"I'm making out the report now. We haven't quite decided whether he committed suicide or died trying to escape."

- Captain Louis Renault, Casablanca

23 posted on 12/17/2018 5:19:11 AM PST by GreenLanternCorps (Hi! I'm the Dread Pirate Roberts! (TM) Ask about franchise opportunities in your area.arare)
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To: billorites
Lots of factors here.

Having risen to the rank of General in that environment, I'm sure he wasn't a stranger to handling and using weapons. So it sounds fishy.

However, even here people familiar with handling weapons (too familiar?) get careless, make mistakes. Although those negligent discharges usually take a toll on bystanders. So it could be.

He had fought in Syria and Iraq. So he had make recent enemies, made a name for himself. Maybe enough (on both counts) that they would come after him and assassinate him. So it sounds fishy.

I'm not sure how you fatally shoot yourself while cleaning a weapon. When I'm cleaning one of my pistols, rifles, my revolver or shotgun... I just never have the weapon pointed at myself. When I do a bore inspection by that point in the disassembly it is no longer a weapon, it is just a steel tube. So it sounds fishy.

29 posted on 12/17/2018 5:45:21 AM PST by ThunderSleeps ( Be ready!)
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“several times”


32 posted on 12/17/2018 5:58:47 AM PST by headstamp 2
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An Army officer cleaning his own gun? Really? Maybe this guy was another Von Staufenburg?


33 posted on 12/17/2018 6:21:35 AM PST by Bringbackthedraft (What is earned is treasured, what is free is worth what you paid for it.)
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"Killin' generals could get to be a habit with me."
34 posted on 12/17/2018 6:28:44 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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It is possible to be an accidental discharge with poor handling of the weapon during unloading/cleaning, including while under the influence of drugs, alcohol, fatigue, etc. This is especially believable if the wound is not contact, but just close range, and not at the midline of the front of the face (including central forehead, between the eyes, and under the chin), not intra-oral, and not at a temple or ear canal (frequent places for intentional self-inflicted shooting, rather than oddly across the nose, or chin, or side of the head, etc.), and not with a direct angle through the head (not straight across, or backward, or diagonally up and back, etc., but instead with a grazing/tangential type path across the head/chin/cheek/forehead, etc.). There are true suicides with the shot at the back of the head, and it’s not hard to do with a handgun—just grip the frame/barrel near the muzzle with one hand and place the muzzle against the back of the head, and trigger it with the thumb of the other hand—no need to imagine trying to hold the gun with one hand in the usual fashion and then place the muzzle against the head, which would require some contortion. Of course, we know no details on this general’s actual wound (location, contact or not, etc.). But yes, most notables/celebrities with a “gun cleaning accident” are likely suicides, just said that way to spare the family’s feelings and protect the decedent’s “reputation.”


35 posted on 12/17/2018 6:28:45 AM PST by Notthemomma
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Does he still get his 75 virgins?


36 posted on 12/17/2018 6:33:35 AM PST by woodbutcher1963
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I acted in a theater with a man, a physician, who was killed accidentally while cleaning his handgun.

My question is why is a general cleaning a gun? He could just tell someone to do that.


38 posted on 12/17/2018 6:53:16 AM PST by lurk
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“Iran says general fatally shot himself by accident”

I hate when that happens! (Unless there’s a member of the iranian military involved)


40 posted on 12/17/2018 8:17:59 AM PST by utax
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To find out who is truly responsible for this, we may have to wait for a high ranking officer in Israel or Saudi Arabia who ends up shooting himself while cleaning his pistol...


44 posted on 12/17/2018 10:07:16 AM PST by Old Teufel Hunden
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