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"Leitner then underscored: "Twenty-four hours that might have given their son a fighting chance."" Sorry for the loss but would there be a hue and cry for locking medicine cabinets had the person gotten into the parents meds and OD'd? Some sort of no start feature for their car had a closed garage running car method been used? A 24 hour wait on materials that could be used to hang oneself? Typical attack the inanimate object instead of addressing the issue. I've known 5 folks who did themselves in with firearms, one running car closed garage, one OD and was familiar with a jumping incident. Who's responsible? The person that did it. Not the tool used.
1 posted on 12/16/2018 8:28:27 AM PST by rktman
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NON print:

https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/brad-wilmouth/2018/12/15/nbc-hypes-gun-sale-waiting-period-prevent-suicide


2 posted on 12/16/2018 8:33:47 AM PST by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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NBC is despicable enough to exploit a suicide to push its agenda. Reason 42 why we hate the MSM.


3 posted on 12/16/2018 8:37:01 AM PST by Flick Lives
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How long is the waiting period for doctor assisted suicide or abortion?


4 posted on 12/16/2018 8:37:16 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Denounce DUAC - The Democrats Un-American Activists Committtee)
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If someone is serious about killing themselves, they’ll do it by whatever means. A waiting period for a gun isn’t going to deter them from a handful of pills, a tree at 90 miles an hour or jumping off a bridge.


5 posted on 12/16/2018 8:37:22 AM PST by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know. how people are infected with Ebola.")
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How long is the waiting period for Tylenol, poison, gasoline, or rope?


6 posted on 12/16/2018 8:37:57 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Denounce DUAC - The Democrats Un-American Activists Committtee)
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The NRA has proposed that all news services have a 24 hour waiting period before announcing on ALL breaking news to allow time to prove it’s not fake news. IF we’re going to infringe on one right let’s get them all.


7 posted on 12/16/2018 8:41:26 AM PST by BipolarBob (Have a McClane Christmas : "Now I have a machine gun HO-HO - HO".)
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In Oregon liberals commit suicide by driving into a truck or large car in the oncoming lane. I’d rather have them use a gun.


8 posted on 12/16/2018 8:42:02 AM PST by aimhigh (1 John 3:23 "And THIS is His commandment . . . ")
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Having read about many suicides over my life, one thing strikes me as being common. They are, for the most part, well planned. They aren’t generally a spur of the moment event.

I suspect a review of a thousand suicides would find very few where 24 hours would have made any difference in the outcome.

Many years ago I was in a lawsuit with my former business partner who lived thirty miles away. Among other problems, he’d become involved with a crime figure, even marrying the man’s daughter. I came home early one day to find my former partner leaving my neighborhood with a greasy looking hood in the passenger seat of his car. I decided I needed a gun right away. There was a 24 hour cooling off period in my county. I called a pawn shop gun dealer I’d sat gun show tables for in the next county where there was no waiting period.

Funny story. He was filling out the paperwork and said, “You’ve never shown an interest in anything like this. (Hidden hammer Smith Model 49) You’re strictly Civil War. What’s up?” I told him what happened and he flipped the paperwork onto the floor and stepped on it, saying, “The gun’s a gift. Best of luck.”

Several years later, I gave it back.


9 posted on 12/16/2018 8:42:13 AM PST by Gen.Blather
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Liberal Marxists should not have to wait.......


11 posted on 12/16/2018 8:43:10 AM PST by EagleUSA
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A rope waiting period.
Suicide by cop waiting period.
No buildings higher than 10’.
Knife waiting period.


14 posted on 12/16/2018 8:46:38 AM PST by gathersnomoss (Grace and Dignity Will Win The Day)
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Why the hell is the CDC investigating gun deaths? WTF does that have anything to do with disease?


16 posted on 12/16/2018 8:49:59 AM PST by MountainWalker
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I already own several guns. How is subjecting me to a waiting period for purchasing gun #N going to make a damn bit of difference.


17 posted on 12/16/2018 8:50:33 AM PST by PapaBear3625 ("Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." -- Voltaire)
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Had a lifelong friend use a rope in a house full of firearms.


19 posted on 12/16/2018 8:53:10 AM PST by waterhill (I Shall Remain, in spite of __________.)
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There is a simple solution, make Suicide Illegal.


20 posted on 12/16/2018 8:54:42 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie (All I know is what I read in the papers.)
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What about “it’s my body, my choice”? Don’t suicidal people have a right to do to their bodies what they want?
Don’t think I’m insensitive. I used to be caring. I’ve gotten to a point where people who are suicidal should be allowed to kill themselves then they can’t procreate.


23 posted on 12/16/2018 8:57:37 AM PST by lucky american (Progressives are attac Iking our rights and y'all will sit there and take it.)
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“Would [NBC] feel any better, Little Girl, if he’d a jumped out a window?” ~ Diana Bunker


28 posted on 12/16/2018 8:59:23 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin ( "Why can't you be more like Lloyd Braun?")
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Let's admit it. The Commies want our guns because they want our government, and them don't want all those guns killing them when they go for it.

By Commies, I refer to ALL TREASONOUS DEMOCRATS. Anything less is self delusion. Somehow, they figure that, now that they own academia and the media, they have their hooks deep enough into DC that they can achieve a complete overthrow.

You know the solution...

29 posted on 12/16/2018 9:04:16 AM PST by jonascord (First rule of the Dunning-Kruger Club is that you do not know you are in the Dunning-Kruger club.)
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Democrats destroy our communities - flooding them with illegals then calling us names for objecting...

Now they want to take away our one sure way out? Eff ‘em...


30 posted on 12/16/2018 9:05:23 AM PST by GOPJ (TERM LIMIT DC SWAMP BUREAUCRATS - a permanent un-elected ruling class is a threat to our freedom.)
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Yeah, as one whose earliest job in mental health, many years ago was working a suicide hotline, I won’t bother with the rest of my credentials. Suffice it to say, I am not unfamiliar with suicidal people.

The gun grabbers are, as usual, full of crap. They are, once again, exploiting a terrible tragedy in the service of their own agenda, which is maximum control over us peasants.

Men and women tend to be different when it comes to suicide. Men are far more likely to look for a method with high lethality, eg guns, hangings.

Women are more likely to take pills. Depending on the underlying pathology, she may do some cutting.

At the core, women often have not-quite-conscious fantasies of being rescued. Unfortunately, miscalculations happen and women who didn’t really want to die lose their lives. Kate Spade and Deborah Jean Palfrey (the DC madame) were unusual, women don’t often hang themselves.

Men are also more impulsive about it. Installing a waiting period is offensive. It marginalizes and trivializes the very real suffering of someone who has lost all hope. They’re trying to get all the brass polished on the Titanic. We lose 20 veterans a day this way. You may be disgusted to learn that the VA has tried to soft pedal that number. They claim it was improper to count the suicides of active duty military in with veterans, which is where the 22 number came from. It’s actually a mere 16.8 veterans per day taking their own lives after serving their country. Feel better now?

The usual libtard claptrap goes: “If we can save just one life . . .” This from the same hypocrites who gave you abortion and Benghazi.

Their stupid plan won’t work, as usual. A man committed to taking his own life can find a gun in many places. It’s not hard.

Or a suicidal man can switch to hanging, or poison, or sucking carbon monoxide, or crashing their cars—there are plenty of options.

If only those imbecilic libs could devote a fraction of their energy to putting out useful information. Suicidal people often throw off signals that are very easily missed or misunderstood.

If you know someone who is having a rough time, watch for the usual, giving stuff away, tying up loose ends, that kind of thing.

Here is where it gets really tricky. If someone you know has been depressed and suddenly shows improvement, especially in therapy and/or on meds, be extremely concerned. Watch for the person seeming more calm and at peace.

That is often the final warning.

The meds or therapy have brought the sufferer’s energy up. He now has the ability to kill himself. He’s at peace, because the decision has been made. He found a way out.

And please, people, always take any suicide talk seriously, even if you’re sure it’s manipulative. Just call 911. If it’s serious, the experts need to handle it. If it’s a bluff, a visit from the police and EMTs will go a long way toward discouraging that sort of behavior in the future.


33 posted on 12/16/2018 9:14:12 AM PST by jazminerose (Adorable Deplorable)
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http://www.gunfacts.info/pdfs/gun-facts/7.1/Gun-Facts-7.1-screen.pdf

36 posted on 12/16/2018 9:51:47 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Democracy dies when Democrats refuse to accept the result of a democratic election they didn't win.)
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