LIVE: Theresa May to face no confidence vote in leadership

Sky News ^ | December 12, 2018

[Old Teufel Hunden]

"The need the approval of most,if not all of the EU countries to extend the Article 50 drop dead date."

Per that EU court ruling on Monday, the UK can 'withdraw' the article 50 (not extend) without the votes of all members. So that is the option I'm thinking about but that would trigger a second referendum. Then after the results of the second referendum they could withdraw again if it was another succesful Brexit vote. As I said before, it is IMO ridiculous but an option.

[TomGuy]

Teresa May says, “I WILL CONTEST THAT VOTE WITH EVERYTHING I’VE GOT!”

She went on to say, 'I have Hillary Clinton on speed dial.'

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[treetopsandroofs]

All she knows how to do is double down....

[mewzilla]

Junker crawled out of his primo champagne bottle long enough to mumble that an extension ain’t happening.

FWIW :-)

[mewzilla]

Per that EU court ruling on Monday, the UK can 'withdraw' the article 50 (not extend) without the votes of all members. 

Wow. AFAIK, there is no language in the treaty to do that. What the heck...

[mewzilla]

http://www.lisbon-treaty.org/wcm/the-lisbon-treaty/treaty-on-European-union-and-comments/title-6-final-provisions/137-article-50.html

What did I miss? Sure looks like they have a drop dead date to me...

[Old Teufel Hunden]

Here’s a link to the article on the court ruling:

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-46481643

I think basically the EU is trying to meddle in domestic UK affairs. They are saying we won’t extend, we won’t renegotiate but we will allow you to cancel the article 50 leave declaration.

This is why IMO, they need to have the no confidence vote defeated but by a narrow margin where she resigns and the Torries get an interim prime minister who is a true Brexiter. One that can go back to Brussels and renegotiate where they know that the UK is serious. If May goes back, they won’t budge because they feel they have her over a barrel.

[mewzilla]

Thanks for the link! But after reading it, the original treaty, and the treaty that amended it, I just think that the UK court is talking out its arse. There’s nothing in the language of either of those two treaties that allows for what the UK court ruled. FWIW. :-)

[usconservative]

May today, Macron tomorrow ... so much WINNING!!!!!

[Old Teufel Hunden]

"There’s nothing in the language of either of those two treaties that allows for what the UK court ruled. FWIW. :-)"

It was actually the European Court of Justice so that is binding on the EU (I guess). I'm sure Europe has the same type of leftist judges that we have. Making stuff up as they go along no matter what the existing laws/treaties are.

[GreenLanternCorps]

Voting underway, should be done by about 3:00pm EST.

[Old Teufel Hunden]

Per Sky News, the voting is done and should not take long to count.

[Old Teufel Hunden]

Just an aside, there were more than the 157 needed who came out publicly saying they would vote down the no confidence measure and keep May. However, it’s a secret ballot so people can say anything in public and never be found out how they voted.

[GraceG]

[ Why don’t you tell us how you really feel Lol ]

I’m holding back, If I told you how I really feel I would be kicked off for posting obscenity!

[11th_VA]

Any update on the vote ?

[Winniesboy]

It’s because there’s nothing in the treaties that either permits or forbids a unilateral withdrawal of Article 50 once invoked that the European Court of Justice (not a UK court) was asked for ruling. It’s the ECJ’s job to rule on matters of EU constitutional law. In its submission to the court, the EU Commission argued that Article 50 could only be un-invoked if each of the other 26 member states agreed. The ECJ rejected that argument. Their ruling actually strengthens the position of member states vis-a-vis the Commission.

[TangledUpInBlue]

England and France. And they say we Americans are nuts.

[GreenLanternCorps]

Results should be announced at about 4:00pm EST

[Old Teufel Hunden]

Just in, shes won the vote of no confidence. No word on the vote count yet.

[Enlightened1]

There is London and there is the rest of the U.K.

Now watch over the next 3 years the U.K. slowly descend into a physical revolution.