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Pope Francis Enacting Change to Lord’s Prayer: ‘Lead Us Not Into Temptation’
CBN News Faithwire ^ | 12/11/18 | Tre Goins-Phillips

Posted on 12/11/2018 5:56:43 PM PST by HotKat

The Vatican — under the direction of Pope Francis — will soon change the verbiage in the Lord’s Prayer to clarify God does not, in fact, tempt people.

The pope has taken issue with the phrase, “Lead us not into temptation,” one stanza of the Lord’s Prayer found in Matthew 6:9-13.

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To: gaijin

Not changing it. Not for this dimwit of a pope.

CC


41 posted on 12/11/2018 7:08:19 PM PST by Celtic Conservative (My cats are more amusing than 200 channels worth of TV.)
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To: lee martell

“No tinkering needed. “

How about 2000 years of tinkering ...


42 posted on 12/11/2018 7:12:17 PM PST by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: HotKat

In other words, lead us away from temptation. It’s not really that hard to understand.


43 posted on 12/11/2018 7:14:03 PM PST by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: HotKat; All

1 Corinthians 10:13 shows that Paul indicated that G-d won’t let you be tempted beyond what you can bear.


44 posted on 12/11/2018 7:19:58 PM PST by Amendment10
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To: HotKat
Let no man, when he is tempted, say that he is tempted by God. For God is not a tempter of evils, and he tempteth no man. But every man is tempted by his own concupiscence, being drawn away and allured. Then when concupiscence hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin. But sin, when it is completed, begetteth death. Do not err, therefore, my dearest brethren.

James, Catholic chapter one, Protestant verses thirteen to sixteen
45 posted on 12/11/2018 7:24:34 PM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: HotKat

I think we all know we are not beseeching God not to lead us into a temptation trap. We are asking to be lead away from temptation. Simply reads better.


46 posted on 12/11/2018 7:32:44 PM PST by The_Media_never_lie ("The MSM is the enemy of the American people"...Democrat Pat Caddell)
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To: HotKat

He has a point.


47 posted on 12/11/2018 7:34:36 PM PST by Churchillspirit (9/11/2001 and 9/11/2012: NEVER FORGET.)
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To: HotKat

Another translation from the Aramaic:

Our Father who is in heaven,

Hallowed be your name.

Your kingdom come; your will be done

On earth as it is in heaven.

Give us this day our bread for tomorrow;

Refresh our souls with the water of life.

And forgive us every one our debts

As we also have forgiven our debtors.

Save us in temptation, deliver us from evil,

And increasingly make us perfect like yourself.


48 posted on 12/11/2018 7:46:52 PM PST by concentric circles
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To: HotKat
Pope Francis Enacting Change to Lord’s Prayer: ‘Lead Us Not Into Temptation’

Deut 4:2
Deut 12:32
Prov 30:6
Rev 22:18
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
49 posted on 12/11/2018 7:49:30 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: HotKat

I always thought it meant for God to keep us from temptation.


50 posted on 12/11/2018 8:03:21 PM PST by Terry Mross
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To: HotKat

I will continue to say the Lord’s prayer in the same manner except that I will raise my voice slightly when I get to the phrase: And lead us not into temptation. I will also continue to withhold money from the Catholic Church until this Pope has left.


51 posted on 12/11/2018 8:06:02 PM PST by Ge0ffrey
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To: HotKat

No Marxist Pope is changing any prayer for me.


52 posted on 12/11/2018 8:13:18 PM PST by Dapper 26
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To: Verginius Rufus
Why do you just ignore this part of the article and make it sound like a snap and solo decision by the Pope:

experts have been studying the biblical text for 16 years and recently concluded, “from a theological, pastoral and stylistic viewpoint,” the centuries-old wording used in English translations of the Bible is incorrect.

53 posted on 12/11/2018 8:26:50 PM PST by Right_in_Virginia
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To: Verginius Rufus

Great point.


54 posted on 12/11/2018 8:31:40 PM PST by GOP Poet
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To: HotKat

be careful there, most methodists I know are decidedly left-wing. My father-in-law (a Methodist “minister”) being the most glaring example.

Just my two cents . . .


55 posted on 12/11/2018 8:42:19 PM PST by txnativegop (The political left, Mankinds intellectual hemlock)
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To: Verginius Rufus

Fenton was an expert in Greek grammar and the Greek language (and Hebrew) after a lifetime of study.


56 posted on 12/11/2018 8:43:39 PM PST by odawg
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To: Yellow vest

Which translation is wrong? I speak several languages and it is the same in all of them.


57 posted on 12/11/2018 8:53:43 PM PST by tarator
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To: HotKat
“God tempts no man,” Spurgeon said.

Yeah, tell that to Job.

58 posted on 12/11/2018 9:31:04 PM PST by GOPJ (Term limit DC bureaucracies - a permanent unelected 'ruling class' is a threat to our democracy.)
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To: HotKat

Leftists have to ruin everything. It’s their nature. They are soulless, joyless people.


59 posted on 12/11/2018 9:37:23 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (Yes, it's a Cold Civil War with Socialists. They don't have the stomach for a hot one.)
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To: adorno

“He provided the temptations, and also gave us free will for us to make the proper decisions.”

Yes. It seems reasonable that Adam and Eve had discussions about the tree in the midst of the garden that they were not free to eat from prior to the tempter showing up. It was enticing just for that reason, like a “Do Not Walk on the Grass” sign, or the tag on a mattress that says, “Do not remove this tag”. The temptation was already there before the devil showed up to toy with them about it. Temptation was a test, or a chance to decide to be obedient or disobedient. When the playground bully showed up, they gave into thoughts they already had.

The discussion between the serpent and Eve is very interesting in that light. “Didn’t God say...?” Says the tempter. And then he adds a small change to God’s prohibition, “neither shall you touch it” - and Eve doesn’t correct him, already straying from the Word by accepting this revision. That is what is happening today.

These revisions and “improvements” upon what has already been written are man changing God’s Word to suit himself and his carnal nature. Man is challenging God by adding and subtracting from what has been written in order to please himself (”man” meaning, humans, for the hyper-sensitives out there). This will not end well for these people if God is who He says He is.


60 posted on 12/11/2018 10:04:29 PM PST by bluejean (I'm becoming a cranky old person. It really annoys me.)
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