Posted on 12/08/2018 3:56:15 PM PST by Simon Green
Earlier this week, a Third Circuit three-judge panel ruled that New Jersey’s new law prohibiting possession of magazines capable of holding more than ten rounds is constitutional. That means New Jersey gun owners who own standard capacity magazines have until Monday to destroy them, alter them, or turn them in.
The question then becomes…what happens after Monday? New Jersey has upwards of a million gun owners. That means there are tens, if not hundreds of thousands of magazines in the state that will be illegal after the deadline. We’re all the way down here in Texas, but if there were lines of gun owners wanting to turn in their prohibited magazines forming around every Garden State police station, that would probably be all over the news right now.
The Washington Free Beacon’s Steven Gutowski tried to get some answers as to how the hoplophobic powers that be in New Jersey plan to enforce their new law. Let’s just say they weren’t particularly forthcoming.
Neither the state police nor the attorney general’s office elaborated on how they plan to enforce the law. Nor did they provide any guidance for those currently in possession of the magazines. . . .
State police told the Washington Free Beacon the effort to enforce the law will be a statewide endeavor directed by the attorney general’s office. They would not comment other than to say they will enforce New Jersey’s laws.
“We will enforce the law of the state,” Lieutenant Theodore Schafer of the New Jersey State Police said. “That’s our plan.”
Schafer would not give any details on the agency’s plan to enforce the law and referred the Free Beacon to the attorney general’s office for further questions.
Surely the AG’s office has some guidance, since Attorney General Gurbir Grewal has been such a fan and outspoken supporter of the new magazine capacity limit law.
Leland Moore, a public information officer for the New Jersey Office of the Attorney General, refused to answer any questions on how the state planned to deal with gun owners who did not comply with the new law. He would not say if the attorney general has any guidance at all for those who currently own the magazines being targeted, which gun-rights activists have estimated to be up to a million New Jersey residents, or provide any insight about how the state will deal with those who don’t turn in, modify, or destroy their magazines.
“We have no comment,” Moore said to multiple inquiries.
It’s almost as if they don’t really have a plan at all for how to enforce their shiny new confiscation law. That’s because, in all likelihood, they don’t. Just look at New York’s SAFE Act registration requirement as an example of how an unenforceable gun control law works in practice.
Under the SAFE Act, New Yorkers were required to register their “assault weapons” by a date certain. But the mandate was met by civil disobedience and wide spread non-compliance from the state’s gun owners. Only a fraction of the estimated number of “assault rifles” in the state were ever registered.
The response by Governor Soprano and his minions was…silence. They’ve chosen to ignore it, having no desire to stir up a hornet’s nest by proactively enforcing the law. If someone is discovered with an un-registered firearm as part of a traffic stop, domestic disturbance call, burglary…whatever…then they’ll prosecute. Otherwise, the unspoken approach seems to be, in effect, don’t ask, don’t tell. And the Governor will continue to trumpet the law’s “success” in making the Empire State safer. Allegedly.
Look for the same approach in New Jersey. Neither Governor Phil Murphy or AG Grewal has any interest in going door-to-door looking for 15-round magazines. And when the State Police’s Lt. Schafer says, “We will enforce the law of the state,” that means they’ll charge you if they happen find +10-round magazines in your car during a traffic stop. Or if someone breaks into your home and they happen to see an offending magazine when they investigate.
So look for New Jersey’s gun owners to respond to their state’s latest Second Amendment infringement much as New Yorkers did. By flipping an invisible bird at the Governor and legislature and claiming all of their standard capacity magazines had been lost in an unfortunate series of tragic boating accidents.
In the mean time, the Association of New Jersey Rifle and Pistol Clubs, the plaintiffs in the lawsuit, have pledged to appeal the decision. And New Jersey’s gun owners will bide their time, hoping for a favorable ruling.
Because in Jersey they can’t count
Still curious on the laws there for belt fed weapons. I have seen semi auto belt feds for sale in various mags.
That’s a Pom Pom in the back of the pickup officer. It only has a 5 round mag in it.
RPG’s have only one round.
What happened in CT:
The radical facist Democrat Governor ordered the list of known offenders that didn’t turn in the magazines and scary semi-autos to LE to start door-to-door kick-ins and arrests. Until they looked at the list and ~70% of the states EMTs, fire, local and state politicians, AND CT TOP 100 TAX SOURCE BUSINESS OWNERS were all on the list.Almost the entire states first responders, tax sources, firefighters, politicians and EMTs would need to be wiped out and put in jail. The enforcement was changed by executive order with the law as a bolt-on charge if there was an arrest for something else FIRST.
Gestapo?
How about tube mags? My old Marlin lever action .22 holds 20 rounds. It was built in 1950.
How about a KSG? Two mags but they only hold 6 rounds each.
How do you count the rounds a flamethrower holds?
Curious minds want to know. Ask enough questions and their heads will explode.
“New Jersey Has No Idea How to Enforce Its 10-Round Magazine Limit Law”
Easy... they will just arrest you for having a magazine.
And no mention of the inner city thugs and their guns
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Put up posters on telephone poles around town that Progressive Democrats are being recruited to go door to door to collect guns.
It is mandatory community service.
List the Democrat Mayor’s phone number.
If asked, just say you are an artist.
Inremental leftism rarely gets push back. But this could scare a few Dems.
It can be passively enforced. In a traffic stop if you have a gun they can check the magazine. If you use a gun to protect yourself they can check it to make sure it’s legal.
One has until Monday to dispose of, or permanently modify >10 round mags to 10 rounds. They need not look any different externally. Full size magazines blocked at 10 and 15 rounds have been available for years. Some available commercially, others modified by dealers.
I've used standard size rifle magazines blocked to 15 rounds at public ranges. They are pretty common. I'm guessing that a significant number of shooters are LEOs. I've never been asked about my magazines, and I've never even heard of anyone who was asked.
All my >10 round magazines now reside in free states, awaiting the post-Ginsburg Supreme Court decision. In the meantime, it's not worth the risk IMO.
Also, the mag restriction only applies to semi-autos. It doesn't apply to pump, lever, or bolt action firearms. And it exempts the tubular magazine Marlin 60 .22 semi-auto. (I'm considering buying one -- just because!)
Have you a source for that? I'd actually like to read about that in detail. Not that anything like that is going to happen in Michigan, I assure you.
My oldest daughter was one of the Republican elected local politicians in 2013 when this went down. I got it straight from the horses mouth. I promise you that you will not find anything anywhere on the internet about this because the Democrats (owning absolutely everything) buried it and the MSM cooperated with it by going dark to this day.
Believe 48 of 54 sheriffs said they would not do it. Lost a lawsuit about it. In commierado magazines owned before the law are legit. Magpul left the state and had a cost plus shipping.
“Almost every sheriff in Colorado has said they’re not going to enforce the 15 round ban here. It’s just not enforceable, without using up a whole bunch of resources.
But I’m sure that doesn’t matter in Jersey.”
In some towns here police chiefs are saying the same thing.
It’s hard to count to Ten
when Your Feet are Webbed!
Are there any ten round or more revolvers?
Good links All!
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