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Harvard Grad Student Facing Eviction over Legally Owned and Stored Firearms
Breitbart ^ | 12/1/18

Posted on 12/01/2018 11:40:46 AM PST by Liberty7732

Harvard graduate student Leyla Pirnie was asked to move out of her apartment after her roommates discovered she possessed legally owned firearms.

The Washington Free Beacon reports that Pirnie’s roommates allegedly rummaged through her belongings while she was away from the apartment, discovered her guns, and emailed the landlord to complain. One of the roommates told the landlord: “We discussed with Leyla that all of us are uncomfortable with having firearms in the house, and that their presence causes anxiety and deprives us of the quiet enjoyment of the premise to which we are entitled.”

The landlord, Avid Management’s Dave Lewis, then emailed the apartment residents, including Pirnie, to say he had checked with local police, who verified the guns were “being safely and legally stored under lock and key.” Despite Pirnie’s compliance with the law, Lewis then cited the roommates’ discomfort with firearms as grounds for Pirnie to move out of the apartment.

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To: KyCats
As long as she pays the monthly rent. All of it. Not just “her share”.

With a three party lease agreement, each party is obligated to pay their fair share. Any break in that lease agreement by any party, the remaining parties can sue for non payment..........I don't think they'd want to do that.

21 posted on 12/01/2018 12:31:16 PM PST by Hot Tabasco
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To: Hot Tabasco

If they are “joint and severable” she could stuck. That lease language is common especially for inexperienced college students.


22 posted on 12/01/2018 12:32:21 PM PST by FreedomNotSafety
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To: Hot Tabasco

This is not correct. In the absence of a specific provision addressing the issue, which is extremely rare in residential leases, every tenant who signs a lease is jointly and severally responsible for the payment of the entire rent due. If nobody pays, the landlord can sue all of them, one of them or any combination of them for the entire amount.


23 posted on 12/01/2018 12:32:22 PM PST by KyCats
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To: Pearls Before Swine

I wonder what Harvard’s stance will be on this?

It’ll be a wide stance,it is Harvard after all.


24 posted on 12/01/2018 12:41:17 PM PST by Farmer Dean (168 grains of instant conflict resolution)
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To: KyCats
hen you get into things like whether or not there is any hope of collecting a judgment against kids who have nothing.

There are very few "kids" that attend Harvard who have nothing. Especially if they're living in an apartment that costs $6,000 per month.......

As a side note, these are adults in post grad programs, not kids.........

25 posted on 12/01/2018 12:42:51 PM PST by Hot Tabasco
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To: Hot Tabasco

This is not correct. Each party who signs a lease is responsible to the landlord for 100% of the monthly rent. If the tenants have made some agreement among themselves as to a pro-rata sharing of the rent, which is almost certainly the case here, whoever has been forced to pay more than his/her share to the landlord because one or more tenants failed to pay, he/she can try to collect that amount from the party who didn’t pay. But all this is completely detached from the obligations to the landlord and it’s going to take a very expensive law suit to collect from the non-paying co-tenant.


26 posted on 12/01/2018 12:43:30 PM PST by KyCats
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To: Liberty7732

Her roommates burglarized her rented apartment depending on the state. Anything being done about that? At a bare minimum it is trespassing.
If nothing is done, she has a right to enter their rooms anytime and rat-F through their possessions to see what she might see.


27 posted on 12/01/2018 12:43:36 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: FreedomNotSafety
That lease language is common especially for inexperienced college students.

She's not an "inexperienced" college student. She's 24 and in a post graduate program........

28 posted on 12/01/2018 12:44:28 PM PST by Hot Tabasco
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To: KyCats

A lot of college area apartments have switched over to sort of a private dorm system. You will have a 4 bed 4 bath apartment with a shared living room and kitchen. Each tenant has a separate lease with the landlord and the tenants have no control over who leases a room in their apartment.


29 posted on 12/01/2018 12:44:43 PM PST by Bubba_Leroy (The Obamanation has ended!)
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To: KyCats
If the tenants have made some agreement among themselves as to a pro-rata sharing of the rent, which is almost certainly the case here, whoever has been forced to pay more than his/her share to the landlord because one or more tenants failed to pay, he/she can try to collect that amount from the party who didn’t pay

Thank you, you just substantiated my argument in post #21........

30 posted on 12/01/2018 12:47:03 PM PST by Hot Tabasco
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To: FreedomNotSafety

Her legal standing here is shaky at best. When you sign a lease with roommates, you may have no control over what happens if they move out on you.


31 posted on 12/01/2018 12:51:18 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("The Russians escaped while we weren't watching them ... like Russians will.")
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To: Hot Tabasco

Many, many assets are exempt from collection. Unless one of these snowflakes owns real estate with >$20,000 equity in it, it’s likely collection would be limited to 25% of after tax earnings. Assuming snowflake has a job.


32 posted on 12/01/2018 12:51:19 PM PST by KyCats
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To: Hot Tabasco

Right as to probable co-tenant agreement. But that still doesn’t change the critical point which is this: landlord can force gun owner to pay to him 100% of the rent each month and if she doesn’t, he can evict her.


33 posted on 12/01/2018 12:53:46 PM PST by KyCats
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To: Hot Tabasco

If her signature is on the lease then he can force her to pay the entire $6,000 monthly rent, though.


34 posted on 12/01/2018 12:54:09 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("The Russians escaped while we weren't watching them ... like Russians will.")
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To: tbw2
Why were the roommates going through her stuff? If I were her and I had *any* option under local law I'd go after them for everything I could. Ditto the landlord for breaking a lease, any option I had, I'd go after them and try to end up owning every one of his/her buildings...

Overall though, she's better off not being around snowflakes.

35 posted on 12/01/2018 12:55:07 PM PST by ThunderSleeps ( Be ready!)
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To: Bubba_Leroy

True. But that is not what’s being described. If that were the case, gun owner wouldn’t be voicing her concerns about having to pay the entire $6,000 monthly rent if snowflakes bolt.


36 posted on 12/01/2018 12:56:09 PM PST by KyCats
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To: Liberty7732

There are plenty of Slip & Fall attorneys in Boston who would love to represent her in court to seek damages against her snowflake room mates and the landlord.


37 posted on 12/01/2018 1:00:03 PM PST by Vlad The Inhaler (Yes Dorothy, Windows 10 sucks even in Kansas!)
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To: Vlad The Inhaler

True. Lots of lawyers would take this case for an hourly fee. Going to be much harder to find an experienced lawyer who will take a case with such a questionable recovery on a contingency. Unless they just hope to use it for publicity. Someone’s going to have to front at least 10k in court costs (mainly deposition fees) just to get it ready for trial. The only deep pocket is this case appears to be the landlord and he’s done nothing wrong.

Leftists have all kinds of organizations that do this kind of political litigation for them for free. Conservatives, not so much.


38 posted on 12/01/2018 1:15:53 PM PST by KyCats
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To: ThunderSleeps

Why didn’t she have her guns secured in some kind of locked strongbox? Snowflakes aside, it’s risking theft or unauthorized use to not have the weapons in a lockable container. Chained to something if possible.

If her nosy roommates asked her “what’s in the strongbox?” she could say “none of your d@mned business & stay the hell out of my stuff!”

“Do you have guns in there?”

“If you want to know for sure, get a warrant! But you’d better be ready to have me charged with something.”

And where does it say in the lease “no firearms”?


39 posted on 12/01/2018 1:28:24 PM PST by elcid1970 (My gun safe is saying, "Room for one more, honey!")
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To: Alberta's Child
If her signature

Too many "If's" and hypotheticals on this thread to even waste time on it anymore.......You guys win.......Celebrate!

40 posted on 12/01/2018 1:30:24 PM PST by Hot Tabasco
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