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Don’t Blame Climate Change For California’s Fires (chaparral country is fire country)
The Federalist ^ | NOVEMBER 21, 2018 | Chuck DeVore

Posted on 11/23/2018 6:57:24 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum

Climate change is a danger to us all and President Trump must be stopped — that’s the chorus we always hear when new climate reports are released and destructive fires ravage California. But is it true?

On Oct. 31, six days before the midterm elections, the journal Nature published an article suggesting that the world’s oceans were absorbing much more heat from climate change than previously calculated. The research, by scientists at Scripps Institution of Oceanography in San Diego, California, and New Jersey’s Princeton University, was obligingly picked up by the national media with alarming headlines such as:

Study: Oceans warming faster than anticipated giving humanity even less time to stave off worst impacts of climate change — San Diego Union-Tribune

Oceans warming faster than anticipated, giving even less time to stave off worst impacts of climate change, study finds — Los Angeles Times

Startling new research finds large buildup of heat in the oceans, suggesting a faster rate of global warming — The Washington Post

Oceans Warming Much Faster Than Thought, Study Finds – The New York Times

Politicians and their campaigns quickly followed suit. California’s senior senator, Dianne Feinstein, running for reelection against a fellow Democrat, tweeted this on Oct. 31: “New science shows the oceans are warming more than we thought. We may have to cut emissions 25% faster to avoid a disastrous 2°C of global warming. It’s time to stop pretending climate change isn’t a real threat—our future depends on it.”

As with many scientific studies in the climate science realm, this one had been weaponized in the service of politics. But the study was deeply flawed. On Election Day, after five days of extensive and frequently breathless media treatment of the ocean warming study, British mathematician Nicholas Lewis posted some doubts on Dr. Judith Curry’s...

(Excerpt) Read more at thefederalist.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: fakescience

1 posted on 11/23/2018 6:57:24 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

What, no link?


2 posted on 11/23/2018 7:02:34 PM PST by be-baw (still seeking...)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

No link provided.


3 posted on 11/23/2018 7:02:59 PM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

All the western states being smoked out by California should be allowed to sue the state.


4 posted on 11/23/2018 7:03:01 PM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Liberalism is a social disease.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“Suggested target locations for arson attacks, the magazine stated, “include houses and apartment buildings, forest areas adjacent to residential areas, factories that produce cars, furniture, clothing, flammable substances, etc., gas stations, hospitals, bars, dance clubs, night clubs, banks, car showrooms, schools, universities, as well as churches, Rafidi [Shiite] temples, and so forth. The options are vast, leaving no excuse for delay.”
Jihadists were advised to time their arson “preferably in the later part of night to the early hours of morning when people are generally asleep,” and instructions were offered on how to block off exits to inflict casualties. For wildfires, ISIS said to look for dry brush “as fire cannot endure in damp or wet environments.” Arsonists were encouraged to leave the mark of ISIS somewhere near the fire site with spray paint or black marker. Suggested target locations for arson attacks, the magazine stated, “include houses and apartment buildings, forest areas adjacent to residential areas, factories that produce cars, furniture, clothing, flammable substances, etc., gas stations, hospitals, bars, dance clubs, night clubs, banks, car showrooms, schools, universities, as well as churches, Rafidi [Shiite] temples, and so forth. The options are vast, leaving no excuse for delay.” https://drudgereport
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5 posted on 11/23/2018 7:11:43 PM PST by patriot08 (5th generation Texan-(girl type)FREEPER FRIENDS! SEE MY TEXAS HX BIO PAGE!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

What would a Road Runner (Chaparral) have to do with wild fires?


6 posted on 11/23/2018 7:19:41 PM PST by Deaf Smith (When a Texan takes his chances, chances will be taken that's fore sure)
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To: Deaf Smith
What would a Road Runner (Chaparral) have to do with wild fires?

I said chaparral, not chaparral bird.


7 posted on 11/23/2018 7:31:14 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Democracy dies when Democrats refuse to accept the result of a democratic election they didn't win.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“Climate change is a danger to the entire world.”

“Climate change blamed for forest fires.”

Then, why are only California forests burning?


8 posted on 11/23/2018 7:48:17 PM PST by FrankR (Make America Great Again, and Keep It That Way.)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

“All the western states being smoked out by California should be allowed to sue the state.”

Absolutely!

That place is the most mismanaged place on planet Earth.

They did it to themselves! They keep looking for a scape-goat. Cali-F-ornia gets an F for Failure to properly manage their Forest!


9 posted on 11/23/2018 7:59:08 PM PST by EnglishOnly (Fight all out to win OR get out now. .)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Much of California is an irrigated desert.


10 posted on 11/23/2018 8:04:05 PM PST by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - J. R. R. Tolkien)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
All the western states being smoked out by California should be allowed to sue the state.

I'm really getting tired of it here in CO. Messes up my sinuses which exacerbates my sleep apnea.

11 posted on 11/23/2018 8:10:43 PM PST by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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I disagree with this article. The cause really is a periodic regional (US Southwest) climate change CYCLE which has been going on for thousands of years. I.e., it has nothing to do with so-called global warming. And this regional climate change cycle is bringing drought, only it isn't drought per se but rather the end of the wettest hundred years in the past @ 2000 years.

We're returning to either normal SW precipitation by the standards of the past few thousand years, and very possibly for the entire Holocene era, or the awful standards of what paleoclimatologists call a "real" drought by historic standards. NORMAL precipitation in the US Southwest over the past 2000 years has averaged only 2/3 of what we've gotten in the past hundred years. A REAL drought by historic standards is 1/3 of the average for the past 2000 years. This has horrendous implications for the whole Southwest, and the paleoclimatologists think we're entering a "real" drought for a couple of centuries.

So the bad fires of the past ten years are nothing compared to what's coming. I recommend reading these sources:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00D4EWHPU/ref=oh_aui_d_detailpage_o02_?ie=UTF8&psc=1,_The West without Water: What Past Floods, Droughts, and Other Climatic Clues Tell Us about Tomorrow_, Ingram, B. Lynn, and Malamud-Roam, Frances, 2013, University of California Press

http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2008/02/drying-west/kunzig-text, _Drying of the West_, (February 2008), National Geographic, Kunzig, Robert

12 posted on 11/23/2018 10:16:46 PM PST by Thud
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

So happy for you that Utah has no fires. Must save you
big tax dollars.


13 posted on 11/23/2018 11:43:14 PM PST by Sivad (Demo M/O = infiltrate, overtake, politicize, weaponize)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
The Chaparral Bush also known as the Creosote Bush has the botanical name, Larrea tridentata. They are the most flammable type of vegetation found in the United States:


14 posted on 11/23/2018 11:51:11 PM PST by jonrick46 (Cultural Marxism is the cult of the Left waiting for the Mothership.)
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To: YogicCowboy

“Much of California is an irrigated desert.”

An irrigated desert which produces double the agricultural
products of the second leading ag producing state.


15 posted on 11/23/2018 11:52:52 PM PST by Sivad (Demo M/O = infiltrate, overtake, politicize, weaponize)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Thousands of new homes built in fire-prone area near San Diego with only one exit road. Would you live there?

https://www.kpbs.org/news/2018/nov/20/camp-fire-fatalities-spark-fears-about-recent-land/


16 posted on 11/24/2018 3:40:02 AM PST by Atlantan
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

In his book Not by fire but by Ice, Robert W. Felix, cites numerous studies documenting underwater volcanism as the source of the oceans warming. He also cites numerous studies about our planets travels through the galactic plane that are effecting our magnetic poles and may cause magnetic wandering or pole shift as another source of climate variance. The settled science of man made global warming is a farce and these know it all scientist now call for spraying aerosols into the atmosphere to block the sun, but the sun is going into a prolonged solar minimum so aerosols would make the coming mini ice age so much worse. These lunatics are gonna kill us all


17 posted on 11/24/2018 7:50:07 AM PST by reluctantwarrior (Strength and Honor, just call me Buzz.kill for short......)
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To: Thud

Nuclear powered desalination plants could solve the drought crisis, but if you solve a crisis you don’t have it to not let go to waste.


18 posted on 11/24/2018 8:18:26 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Democracy dies when Democrats refuse to accept the result of a democratic election they didn't win.)
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To: Sivad

We have fires. We just know how to manage our forests so that entire counties don’t look like they were nuked, we have competent people that can put them out in a timely manner, and we don’t drag the entire country into our problems.


19 posted on 11/24/2018 12:32:45 PM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Liberalism is a social disease.)
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To: EnglishOnly

The only reason things might change is because a bunch of Hollywood stars got burned out of their homes, ironic since they’re the ones that successfully lobbied to get controlled burns shut down because the smoke from it was bothering them. Don’t like the smoke from controlled burns, eh? You’re upset about that smoke messing up your view of the valley below? How do you like your entire area code looking like it was nuked?! Californians are idiots.


20 posted on 11/24/2018 5:55:43 PM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Liberalism is a social disease.)
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